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Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by danneu »

oneloop wrote: post #230

It's really sad to me to see a bunch of intelligent people here being led like sheep by Facebook (no, this isn't a sheeple post, hear me out) Virtually everyone here complains "Facebook does XYZ really bad but I still use them because all my friends are there". I have a solution. Why don't you get all your friends off there? Pick a platform that you really like and start evangelising. The only reason why Facebook has…

I'm sure if I fussed enough, I could get a handful of my friends to use some app I was fixated on, just for me, and they'd do it just to avoid stressing our friendship to its end as I drone on and on about privacy and encryption and sheeple.

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Post by Borating »

oneloop wrote: post #230

It's really sad to me to see a bunch of intelligent people here being led like sheep by Facebook (no, this isn't a sheeple post, hear me out) Virtually everyone here complains "Facebook does XYZ really bad but I still use them because all my friends are there". I have a solution. Why don't you get all your friends off there? Pick a platform that you really like and start evangelising. The only reason why Facebook has…

The only reason why Facebook has as much power as it does is because of user lock-in, but that use lock-in is only strong because no one fights it actively.

Therefore, I started evangelising from WhatsApp to Telegram

Telegram is also a close silo. Tell your friend to use programs that use an open protocol like XMPP [1].

Please read [1]

[1] https://communicationfreedom.wordpress.com/jabberxmpp/

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by Ensorceled »

oneloop wrote: post #230

It's really sad to me to see a bunch of intelligent people here being led like sheep by Facebook (no, this isn't a sheeple post, hear me out) Virtually everyone here complains "Facebook does XYZ really bad but I still use them because all my friends are there". I have a solution. Why don't you get all your friends off there? Pick a platform that you really like and start evangelising. The only reason why Facebook has…

No, this was pretty much a sheeple post. I'm following the herd of friends and family to Facebook because that group is large and my 40+ cousins, most of whom are blue collar and happy just to have place to share baby pics, are uninterested in bizarre discussions about corporate malfeasance.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by nodja »

yefim wrote: post #13

Now it's going to be much harder to send messages from your friend's phone when your phone dies. Before you could use an incognito tab, and now you have to log out of the Messenger app entirely and log in as another user.

Use messenger.com

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by galdosdi »

This is kind of convenient; it gives me one more excuse not to use facebook. A few days ago I got the usual notification email that somebody had sent me a message on FB. Clicking is a low barrier so I clicked, curiously. Then I instead got the "No, now you have to install Messenger app" screen. That was enough of a barrier that I said "oh forget it, who cares, anybody who knows me would know better than to send me an FB message anyway, if it matters they'll get in touch via a 'real' communications medium like email, text, or phone"

So sending me an FB message is now a black hole and I'm fine with that. FB's decision just pushed me and all other similar users (users that already are on the fringes of FB usage, using it only rarely) even further away.

I'm not sure if that's a bad thing or good thing for them, since honestly I don't know what FB could do alternately to win back people in my "barely use FB" demographic, and from comments here it does seem like people who actually use FB regularly did not share my reaction ("screw it then") and instead felt forced to install the app and move on with their lives.

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Post by sp332 »

allthetime wrote: post #219

This is kind of a non issue... You can just use messenger.com, no need to download an app. I'm probably biased though because messaging is the only thing I really use Facebook for, and event tracking.

Most mobile browsers are blocked by messenger.com though.

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Post by sp332 »

f_allwein wrote: post #196

You can also use Trillian for FB messages instead of installing the FB app. https://www.trillian.im

Seconded! I use the paid version but the free version supports Facebook messenger just fine. I just got my brother on it yesterday and he already recommended it to everyone fed up with the new change.

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Post by rtpg »

galdosdi wrote: post #295

This is kind of convenient; it gives me one more excuse not to use facebook. A few days ago I got the usual notification email that somebody had sent me a message on FB. Clicking is a low barrier so I clicked, curiously. Then I instead got the "No, now you have to install Messenger app" screen. That was enough of a barrier that I said "oh forget it, who cares, anybody who knows me would know better than to send me an…

The counterpoint is that I know heavy FB users (myself included) who have opted to just install Messenger on their phones, essentially being able to get rid of FB on the phone, to limit distractions but keep the nice communication

While I kinda get removing it from the mobile app, I don't really know what the rationale is for getting rid of mobile web chat though. It's not like it's disappearing from the desktop web app anytime soon, right?

right?

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Post by Matt3o12_ »

oneloop wrote: post #230

It's really sad to me to see a bunch of intelligent people here being led like sheep by Facebook (no, this isn't a sheeple post, hear me out) Virtually everyone here complains "Facebook does XYZ really bad but I still use them because all my friends are there". I have a solution. Why don't you get all your friends off there? Pick a platform that you really like and start evangelising. The only reason why Facebook has…

How did you make your friends use telegram instead just for you? I use iMessage with my best friend and my dad because it is my preferred way of communication (it is fairly secure, easy to use, and I can reply from my watch, Mac, iPad and iPhone, unlike any competitor except email). For everybody else I have to use what's app because they cannot be bothered to install an app just to contact me once a week (or some even once a month) and email (my second preferred method of communication) is too complicated, clumsy, old, or just too uncool for everybody to use (except for checking for that registration link on Instagram).

You cannot just move a large group of people to another platform if you don't have any authority over them (e.g. their boss) unless they want to switch on their own (because their previous method is too unreliable, inconvenient or expensive).

I, for one, would be happy if I can make my teacher believe that WhatsApp is not a good idea to contact me for various things regarding my final exam. The best way to reach me is always through email.

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