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Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by ikeboy »

click170 wrote: post #107
rietta wrote: post #20

I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

Not to mention that Facebook has intentionally changed the email address of contacts in people's phones without asking them [0]. This does not change my mind about banning all Facebook apps from my devices, it just means even less Facebook for me. [0] http://www.cnet.com/how-to/facebook-changed-your-e-mail-addr... !

That's not what the article says. They changed people's own listed emails on Facebook.com, no indication they changed anything on devices.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by r3bl »

maccard wrote: post #182
jds375 wrote: post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

What data can yhet get from having messenger as an app rather than a website? They already have my list of contacts, all the messages I've sent, they can store my message as I type it through their website. I just don't understand!

Your GPS location (if you have it turned on), your SMS messages, your call logs, your phone's storage, your camera, your mic... Just read the permissions: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.o...

I've never had a Facebook app on any of my phones and I will never install one.

Worth pointing out: Luckily, my phone came without Facebook apps preinstalled, so I had the choice of seeing what Facebook wants to access. Other people don't even have that chance since it comes preinstalled in most of the cases.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by hk__2 »

click170 wrote: post #107
rietta wrote: post #20

I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

Not to mention that Facebook has intentionally changed the email address of contacts in people's phones without asking them [0]. This does not change my mind about banning all Facebook apps from my devices, it just means even less Facebook for me. [0] http://www.cnet.com/how-to/facebook-changed-your-e-mail-addr... !

> Not to mention that Facebook has intentionally changed the email address of contacts in people's phones without asking them

They changed it on FB, not in people’s phones.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by maccard »

r3bl wrote: post #202
maccard wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What data can yhet get from having messenger as an app rather than a website? They already have my list of contacts, all the messages I've sent, they can store my message as I type it through their website. I just don't understand!

Your GPS location (if you have it turned on), your SMS messages, your call logs, your phone's storage, your camera, your mic... Just read the permissions: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.facebook.o... I've never had a Facebook app on any of my phones and I will never install one. Worth pointing out: Luckily, my phone came without Facebook apps preinstalled, so I had the choice of seeing what Faceboo…

But they have that data through their regular Facebook app (I wonder if that's next).

Also I'm on iOS so I can deny access to Gps/location/camera/mic and there's no way to access my message history.

Thanks for the reply though!

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by k-mcgrady »

marme wrote: post #103

i refuse to install the mobile app because there is no way to stop people from calling you on messenger. There is no way to turn it off or have some kind of do not disturb. If someone wants to mess with you they can just keep calling you and your only choice is to block them and remove them from your friends list

>> "If someone wants to mess with you they can just keep calling you and your only choice is to block them and remove them from your friends list"

This seems like either a made up scenario or you have weird friends. Who would keep calling someone to 'mess with them'???

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by k__ »

galistoca wrote: post #31
jds375 wrote: post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I'm not a FB fanboy or anything, but sometimes it is a good choice to free yourself from legacy tech burden and build for the future. The web (html documents fetched via http requests) were not built with mobile devices in mind, especially websockets. In the mobile era, all messaging is based on push notifications which must go through the device vendor (APNS or GCM), and trying to support the legacy tech in this lan…

True story.

Except native apps aren't the future :/

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by aembleton »

BuckRogers wrote: post #57

I have a FB account but rarely login to it. I've never installed the app on my iPhone because I don't want notifications and generally find FB distasteful. If there was a higher class crowd on FB I would probably use it more but for me it ended up being a bunch of people from my hometown / high school who are angry, usually at other ethnic groups and don't seem wildly successful in their own right. If I do want to lo…

You could just de-friend them.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by XJOKOLAT »

I don't want notifications. I don't use FB to chat.

I'm totally happy with the web FB.

And, maybe I'm wrong, but it appears like the FB app using a crap-tonne of data in comparison with web.

Side benefit: FB app not following me around like a stalker.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by em3rgent0rdr »

peteretep wrote: post #159
JoshMnem wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people don't want any Facebook software in their phones for legitimate privacy reasons.

What is it that Messenger the app can access that Messenger via Facebook cannot, for people who take their privacy seriously?

Privacy concerned users can use wrappers around the Facebook website, such as the open source "Tinfoil for Facebook" or "Face Slim" android apps, then Facebook cannot access certain things (depending on your configuration). If have to use a proprietary facebook app, then likely cannot achieve the same degree of privacy protections.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Post by tomjen3 »

taurath wrote: post #17

Eventually facebook will become so user hostile the network effect will mean that so many people are leaving it'll be like Digg and Myspace all over again. Can we go back to the time when companies tried to please users instead of advertisers?

Facebook is mostly politics and baby pictures for me, neither of which I care about, with the occasional important relationship announcement that I do care about, which is why I come back daily.
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