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Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

#101
I really like the browser, but still doesn't work with Apple Keychain so using it is not an option here. Guess I'm too lazy but it would take weeks to migrate over, and then I'd need to store the passwords in dual locations, which seems like a bad idea.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

#103
post #18

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It's not stupid, it's true - a lot of the UI is written in HTML/CSS/Javascript.

What he calls out as stupid was the mistake of using those technologies for the UI. Although I defended Vivaldi as the Opera Successor since its Beta, I stopped to support and suggest it because it failed to fix the js/css/HTML sluggishness with Version 1, and even more sadly with Version 1.2. I started using unofficial stable Chromium Builds with Codecs and Sync disabled via ChrLauncher and couldn't be happier.

Try Otter too, it's promising as an Opera successor, although it's still lacking some stuff like password manager.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

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post #45
post #14

The browser is fast, based on Chromium, has a nice Opera 12 inspired UI but is closed source.

it's open source. you cannot use the code or contribute, but still you can download the source code https://vivaldi.com/source/

This isn't actually the source. You can't build Vivaldi from this. It's just their Chromium patches.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

#106
post #40

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> The biggest features we are working on are sync and mail Okay, I have to question this. Why is a browser vendor spending precious time and money adding a mailbox to their browser? I used Vivaldi a little bit ago during the beta/1.0 period for a few months—at that time at least, the UX needed more polish and there were bugs and usability issues that were daily pain points. So I find this it concerning that they're b…

> Okay, I have to question this. Why is a browser vendor spending precious time and money adding a mailbox to their browser? Because Jon von Tetzchner (founder of Opera and Vivaldi) thinks having it in the browser is superior to having it as a separate app. It used to be like this in Opera as well. His goal is to provide an application with more value than just the stripped down browsers you see these days.

this really is the reason. He wants to remake Opera and is pretty clear about that. I never used Opera's email client so I don't really care but I know there are a lot of people who do.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

#107
post #14

The browser is fast, based on Chromium, has a nice Opera 12 inspired UI but is closed source.

in the reddit AMA linked elsewhere in the comments they were asked about it and said they were thinking about it so it isn't entirely out of the question that they will open source it.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

#108
post #54

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this is open source. https://vivaldi.com/source/

That is visible source. Without a license, it's not "open source". Nor is the source provided there complete. The last time they were asked, they said only the C++ code is open and available to the public.

It's the LGPL parts of Chromium that they needed to modify to run their engine. So it's LGPL'd, but only the specific parts that they need to release.

Re: Vivaldi 1.2 release

#110
Vivaldi features are not that bad, but the fact that this "browser" is only a combination of some extensions bundled with Chromium is a big downside.

Also, not being able to implement more privacy for example fingerprint block is also rather bad. All they do is work inside their extensions related code with avoiding to touch actual Chromium code base.

When these guys have finally more knowledge about Chromium to either enhance it or remove unused parts - Vivaldi UI exists outside of Chromium and they carry all that Chromium luggage around which they also not using at all which means tons of dead weight - then this browser COULD be useful - of course only when Open Sourcing it 100% - but before, not even worth thinking about it.

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