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Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by kissickas »

sasvari wrote: post #173
trevor-e wrote: post #169

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> Good god why would I care? If you're not interested in what your friends are up to, why are you friends with them in the first place? Maybe they're really just acquaintances? Like you said, maybe it's a difference in attitude. Still, I recommend you giving it a shot to get a better idea of what it is. I also thought it was dumb at first.

> > > When you have more than a handful of friends that you're trying to keep in touch with, are you really going to ask every single one of them what they're up to each day? > > Good god why would I care? > If you're not interested in what your friends are up to, why are you friends with them in the first place? Maybe they're really just acquaintances? if I would care about what every single friend of mine is doing…

You don't have to care about what every single friend of yours is doing every single day.

I'm sure I don't have the typical use case, but as an expat, I have friends spread out all over the world. Usually I don't see anything from them on Snapchat, but when they're going on a hike somewhere beautiful, attending an event, or having fun otherwise, I get to see it and thereby "keep in touch". I get to see what my little cousins are doing at home as they grow up (which is quite annoyingly "snap back for a rate" or some nonsense I won't pretend to understand), and even see what their mother is cooking for dinner when she shares that.

If you don't like it, don't use it. But don't be fooled into thinking it's just pictures of lunch from people at their 9-5 office jobs. Even many of us with 9-5 jobs have something interesting to share, at least on an afternoon or weekend.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by majewsky »

themagician wrote: post #145
sharkweek wrote: post #15

30something here - It took me a while to "get" Snapchat, but in my opinion there is no better way to keep up with friends and family digitally than via Snapchat Stories. You can post pretty shamelessly the little things you're up to all day to your story, knowing it will be gone in 24 hours, keeping your feed really clean. Posting more than once or twice a day to Instagram/Facebook seems excessive, Twitter is a bit m…

There is nothing to "get". It's all the same. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat. People want a free way to broadcast to their friends. Someone invents a service that does that. Slowly ads take over. Now the stream needs to be "curated". It's no longer a timeline. It's no longer sensible. Now you can no longer reliably broadcast to your friends. People search for a new service that did what the old service used t…

> It's all the same. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat. People want a free way to broadcast to their friends.

That's only one use-case. I don't use Twitter at all to broadcast to my friends. I broadcast political opinion and tech humor to whomever it may concern, and receive condensed insights from public figures whom I find relevant for me.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by majewsky »

raimue wrote: post #208
mrweasel wrote: post #201

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>Someone invents a service that does that. Slowly ads take over. The problem really is that no one wants to pay for services, or no one is willing to try charging for their services. Ads are the "safe" option, but it will also make your users leave in the long run. I was pretty baffled when a publisher wrote that they would rather make money from ads on their site, than make money from people buying a subscription. S…

> or no one is willing to try charging for their services app.net tried, but it was not successful.

In Germany, especially since Snowden, there is a healthy niche for paid mail providers, such as posteo.de or mailbox.org. I pay 1€ per month for my mailbox because it allows me to be certain that I'm the customer, not the product.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by majewsky »

greggman wrote: post #177
ChazDazzle wrote: post #55

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Thirty something here. The stories aren't spam since they don't trigger notifications and you have to intentionally click on them to watch. When i'm not feeling social I ignore snapchat, when i am, i know i can check in and see what my friends are doing.

They are spam if I have to deal with them at all. Even skipping over things I'm not interested in is spam to me. It got so bad on FB I installed FB Purity. I have about 15 filters in there. Two to filter out one of my friend's posts who posts a pictures of every single meal every single day. I don't want to unfriend him nor unfollow him but his meal posts are spam to me. How would this be any different in Snapchat? I…

Exactly. The "Fear Of Missing Something Important" explained in https://medium.com/swlh/how-technology-hijacks-peoples-minds...

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by Grue3 »

The thing about Snapchat is that it has no web footprint. It's impossible to judge how big it actually is. They can report whatever numbers they want. Remember how Google+ claimed to have more active users than Twitter? Yeah.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by majewsky »

haimez wrote: post #88
lizardking wrote: post #78

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Yes but the receiver of your email doesn't necessarily have to delete your email, which is the key distinction of what makes the service useful.

I have to disagree. What makes Snapchat popular is their use of pictures. Turning the thesis of your point into a totally public, 160 character or less, textual format is effort. A lot of effort. Pictures are what they are. They're also extremely difficult to parse (no practical reason to retain your message, deletion is a cost effective decision), and they're the easiest thing in the world to make. Who wants to care…

Because the camera limits you to visual content. You cannot do https://twitter.com/MicroSFF or https://twitter.com/sadserver with images.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by aethos »

kobayashi wrote: post #178
themagician wrote: post #156

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Because you got into Facebook so late. People who are 20 are doing on Snapchat today what I did on Facebook when I was 20: multicasting. I either want to send a message to everyone or to a group. Sometimes in a personal message. I see almost no real difference in content. Snapchat might be a little racier in personal messages, but that happened on FB and Twitter as well. The ephemeral nature was built into Facebook a…

Those are thought-provoking points. I'm trying to remember how I originally used facebook back in high school, and before the News Feed and Like eras we definitely used facebook much differently. Still, I think people use Snapchat to share more inconsequential parts of their lives than we ever did on facebook, but maybe that anecdotal experience isn't true, or maybe the difference is so minute that it doesn't even ma…

>"Still, I think people use Snapchat to share more inconsequential parts of their lives than we ever did on facebook"

Actually, I think this can be chalked up to the age of you and your friends. Snapchat feels very "middle school", when a status update could have been something like "I just saw a cute dog!!" -- a very low bar. Now as a 20-something a status is something I would use to say "Flying back home for a week!" -- more major events.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by majewsky »

zanny wrote: post #114
bane wrote: post #112

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Meanwhile, we all still have email, phones, snail mail and texting.

XMPP died though, and Matrix hasn't yet replaced it as it should, which is a problem.

XMPP died? There must be a bug in my Pidgin then, it claims to still be connected to my XMPP server. /s

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by aethos »

majewsky wrote: post #222
themagician wrote: post #145

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There is nothing to "get". It's all the same. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat. People want a free way to broadcast to their friends. Someone invents a service that does that. Slowly ads take over. Now the stream needs to be "curated". It's no longer a timeline. It's no longer sensible. Now you can no longer reliably broadcast to your friends. People search for a new service that did what the old service used t…

> It's all the same. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat. People want a free way to broadcast to their friends. That's only one use-case. I don't use Twitter at all to broadcast to my friends. I broadcast political opinion and tech humor to whomever it may concern, and receive condensed insights from public figures whom I find relevant for me.

I would argue that "purposeful" users like yourself are in the minority.

Re: Snapchat Passes Twitter in Daily Usage

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Post by majewsky »

seizethecheese wrote: post #122
dcw303 wrote: post #93

Social media networks are like night clubs. Myspace was edgy and underground, then it got invaded by the masses and it was no longer trendy, so everyone went to Facebook. Facebook was good for a while but now your parents and family are in every conversation. How much fun can you have in a nightclub with your parents watching everything you do? Twitter is more like a massive dance hall filled with people shouting at…

This begs for a description of HN as a nightclub.

Let's not golang there.
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