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HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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You sent everyone an email[1] to participate in the discussion, and after this an over-capacity message[2] is a bit disappointing because it seems like you did expect the attention this time. On the other hand, I know that things can go wrong and I wish you a quick recovery and all the success. [1]: http://i.imgur.com/ZazMSgt.png [2]: http://i.imgur.com/NXyTHBB.png edit: BTW I reloaded the page and the error disappea…

I think that's a little bit unfair. HN posts can be a giant hit-or-miss in terms of popularity.

But this isn't the first time they are popular on HN. This attention should give them more motivation to upgrade the servers, at least.

Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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I would be interested if I could 1) host this myself. Something like apt-get install hyperdev. 2) have an integrated SQL database in the runtime. Concept of migrations should be known by the runtime. 3) have a one click deploy option that synced everything to a remote runtime, be it on my own servers or hosted by a 3rd party. Syncing to a runtime with older schema should automatically run migrations.

1) Check out Meteor. It's very similar and can be self hosted. https://www.meteor.com/

2) You can use your favorite Node SQL package for that. Yeah, the DB has to be hosted somewhere else, but that's getting pretty easy if you're using PAAS services.

3) Yeah, that'd be nice.

Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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There isn't anything special about the HyperDev work flow. You can take any project that runs in HyperDev and `git push heroku master` and have it running on Heroku, or run it locally in a similar manner. HyperDev gives you an environment where you can update and deploy your code without having to set anything up to get started. You can collaborate with anyone by just sending them a link. There will always be a place…

Hmm. I don't know about serving "99% of developers" without support for at least top 10 languages/frameworks, catering for enterprise (which is, in my country, like 50% or more of all jobs for software devs), and an IDE that has at least the most basic of features... but most of all, I do not feel like the blog post or the site itself communicates in any way the two most important feelings I'd like to get as a develo…

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Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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I would be interested if I could 1) host this myself. Something like apt-get install hyperdev. 2) have an integrated SQL database in the runtime. Concept of migrations should be known by the runtime. 3) have a one click deploy option that synced everything to a remote runtime, be it on my own servers or hosted by a 3rd party. Syncing to a runtime with older schema should automatically run migrations.

something that might be interesting is a hosting this (https://github.com/gabrielcsapo/node-notebook). It does not have sql database support, but can use all of node's capabilities. Another plus is you can self host it

Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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I really like the concept of this. Especially with node/react I found learning webpack and setting everything up takes FOREVER. Unfortunately, platforms like these always seem ridiculously overpriced when compared to a bare metal dedicated server. I'd be curious to see how it is priced.

There should be plenty of bootstrap projects for node/react to get up and running quickly, e.g. http://yeoman.io/

How do you find the right one?

Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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I really like the concept of this. Especially with node/react I found learning webpack and setting everything up takes FOREVER. Unfortunately, platforms like these always seem ridiculously overpriced when compared to a bare metal dedicated server. I'd be curious to see how it is priced.

There should be plenty of bootstrap projects for node/react to get up and running quickly, e.g. http://yeoman.io/

I'll have to check it out. I remember back when I was doing Angular I looked through several and none of them were even close for what I wanted to do. I think React is much more standardized.

Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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Cool idea, but it feels a little like using FTP to develop in a live environment. The pitch seems to be saying SCM and deployment tools are bad things, but they're valuable and useful tools.

Joel made very clear he is not saying anything of the sort. He is saying they are very useful tools for professional development, but sometimes you just want to type some code and see what it does.

Re: HyperDev – Developer Playground for Full-Stack Web Apps

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You sent everyone an email[1] to participate in the discussion, and after this an over-capacity message[2] is a bit disappointing because it seems like you did expect the attention this time. On the other hand, I know that things can go wrong and I wish you a quick recovery and all the success. [1]: http://i.imgur.com/ZazMSgt.png [2]: http://i.imgur.com/NXyTHBB.png edit: BTW I reloaded the page and the error disappea…

I think that's a little bit unfair. HN posts can be a giant hit-or-miss in terms of popularity.

If it's not the first time they have issues like that, being them I'd have load tested before posting and promoting again.

But tradeoffs and stuff!

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