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I really like the concept of this. Especially with node/react I found learning webpack and setting everything up takes FOREVER. Unfortunately, platforms like these always seem ridiculously overpriced when compared to a bare metal dedicated server. I'd be curious to see how it is priced.
"Oh, and it’s free."
This is concerning as free tools often don't make economic sense. Even more concerning is how casually Joel treats this issue in the Q&A section. He should know better.
The barriers - login, mainly - aren't there to annoy users.
Pretty cool, the idea looks similar to `now` by Zeit[1] Platform as a service has gone from click to get a server that needs configuring (AWS), to get a server already configured (Heroku), and now to write code and get URL without even needing to think about servers [1]: https://zeit.co/
Could someone please help me understand why I would use Hyperdev over say JSbin or JSfiddle (if I were only using html/javascript/css)? Also, would Hyperdev be capable of PHP, MySQL?
We're on the front page of some major sites so things are blowing up a little bit, but we should have it sorted out soon! Thanks for your patience! - A frantic HyperDev developer
> {"status":"Error","statusCode":503,"statusDetail":"Waiting To Serve for cosmic-panther: No service found running on port"}
Nice sense of humour at least ;)
I really like the concept of this. Especially with node/react I found learning webpack and setting everything up takes FOREVER. Unfortunately, platforms like these always seem ridiculously overpriced when compared to a bare metal dedicated server. I'd be curious to see how it is priced.
That's because you are learning webpack and setting everything up. It's akin to setting out to learn java by learning maven first and downloading all your dependencies through that and then learning how to bundle your code into a war for deployment on a J2EE server. Of course that's going to take more time than just copying some jars in your classpath and getting to work and learning the language.
If you want to learn React, copy the latest CDN, use the in-browser transpiler, and start learning react. Add the goodies on later.
1) host this myself. Something like apt-get install hyperdev.
2) have an integrated SQL database in the runtime. Concept of migrations should be known by the runtime.
3) have a one click deploy option that synced everything to a remote runtime, be it on my own servers or hosted by a 3rd party. Syncing to a runtime with older schema should automatically run migrations.
Cool tech, fun toy! I hope it is successful. I think Joel should focus on it's toy-like nature, and potential as a learning tool, rather than trying to build this into a production grade tool. I spent years building tools for this market between professional devs and non-developers. (Backlift.com and then Brace.io) It's really tough. Most people learning to code are trying to gain transferrable skills that can help t…
Agreed, and I think the latter part of the post (the "FAQ") indicates that Joel doesn't see this as a deployment strategy for professional developers...
"Listen, this is not the future of all software development. Professional software development teams will continue to use professional, robust tools like Git and that’s great. But it’s surprising how just having continuous merging and reliable Undo solves the “version control” problem for all kinds of simple coding problems. And it really does create an insanely addictive form of collaboration that supercharges your team productivity."
Basically it's a platform that makes a major trade-off: practically zero accountability in exchange for maximum usability. To us professionals, this doesn't seem like a worthwhile choice. However, to those non-programmers or budding programmers which I believe this product is geared towards, it's a step in the right direction. This feels like it wants to be the "Google Docs" of programming.