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Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by conceit »

ehnto wrote: post #227
mrweasel wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Data mining what exactly? Unless you know what in the image, it's hardly interesting that a user with browser fingerprint X viewed some image with a random hash or name.

Sure it is, you can track the site it was hosted on and follow the fingerprint around the web. The image content isn't the juicy bit. If I can see you viewed an image referred from /r/woodwork I might offer you some woodworking tools and drive up the conversation rate of my advertisements.

> The image content isn't the juicy bit

It is. The wealth of images alone, the sheer amount, from memes to vacation pics is worth so much now that image recognition is taking off.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by shostack »

vincentbarr wrote: post #68
Others wrote: post #25

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What dark patterns are they implementing?

On mobile, Imgur has the most distracting, obstructive, and bewildering modal window I've seen. I'm not being hyperbolic; it's worse than the dark patterns on Forbes.com. It's in the form of a cat's claw, animated – sliding and extending from the top of your screen almost to the bottom – and slow, making users either click it accidentally or wait in frustration until it can be closed. Despite having seen it countless…

Not only that, but the damn app pop-down from the top of the page when using AlienBlue on iPad is infuriating once it happens enough. Slows the entire experience down.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by shostack »

onli wrote: post #159
finnn wrote: post #31

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"direct" links to an image uploaded sometimes/usually redirect to imgur page, with lots of ads and shitty content, obnoxious, animated overlays that block out part of the image on mobile, etc

None of that is a dark pattern. A dark pattern is an UI design that motivates users to use the program/site in a way profitable to the site, but contrary to users' interest. To trick people, see http://darkpatterns.org/ . Redirecting to the whole page instead of the link is just a hotlink protection (as debatable as that is for an image hoster). Animated overlays in mobile is just shitty advertising and UX. But no da…

Here's a screenshot of their Share UI: http://i.imgur.com/6J3CvKD.png

There is something labeled very clearly as a "Direct Link." When I paste that link into my browser, I go to the image file.

If people are posting the Direct Link and it is indeed redirecting to the full site (per the claims), then that is most certainly a very dark pattern if not an outright example of blatantly lying to their users.

So in this case it is very much about the UI and what is presented to the user at the time they are grabbing the URL.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by shostack »

esolyt wrote: post #155

> At this time, the Reddit community can still choose to use Imgur or other sites for image hosting. The fact that they used the phrase "At this time" makes it sound like they are planning to disable external image links in the future.

1. Provide a better 1st party image hosting experience free of ads and clutter.

2. Block other image hosts from your service forcing people to use yours.

3. Introduce ads.

4. Profit!!!

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by rezashirazian »

Viewing images on reddit has always been broken. Without RES (Reddit Enhancement Suite) the UX on the site is horrendous. And even with RES, images not hosted on imgur wouldn't work most of the time.

It was so bad I took on myself to aggregate images from /r/funny and put them in a mobile friendly and fast website. http://www.pixpit.com

unfortunately every time I tried to talk about it on reddit, they deleted it.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by AznHisoka »

cloudwalking wrote: post #48
finnn wrote: post #31

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"direct" links to an image uploaded sometimes/usually redirect to imgur page, with lots of ads and shitty content, obnoxious, animated overlays that block out part of the image on mobile, etc

To be fair, bandwidth isn't free. Imgur can't serve hotlinked content for free, forever.

that's fine. nobody is demanding their services now including Reddit.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by ne0phyte »

hexane360 wrote: post #353
virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #327

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Yes, absolutely; the Imgur community is completely and totally distinct from Reddit (to the point where people bitch about even seeing the reddit stuff! There's even the comment-meme 'roddit pls' etc) The big question is simply how Imgur will continue to (sustainably) grow that community. This really brings the question back to the very root: "How do we make Imgur the de-facto image hosting/sharing site in the world"

They bitch about the obvious reddit stuff, but do they realize that most of their content comes from reddit? What happens when most of their posts disappear?

Imgur has its own community. By now you can't even tell if something is posted on imgur and someone submits it on reddit or if a reddit user uploads something and it gets upvotes on imgur.

I think that imgur can exist on its own and will have more than enough content.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by gohrt »

makecheck wrote: post #274

Imgur forgot its roots as a dumb image host, rapidly crufting-up its service with things that were not only annoying but interfering with its basic function . If you can’t easily see an image as soon as you click on it — on mobile or otherwise — then the image service has completely failed. The sad thing is, they could have added non-intrusive ads. DaringFireball does it; write a single line of text such as “This ima…

imgur didn't forget its roots, its roots were a marketing ploy to win Reddit's trust before dialing up monetization.

imgur got popular because it originally eschewed the bloated ad-laden crapware that paid the bills of the previous imagehosts, until the runway ran out and imgur took its turn in the cycle.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by gohrt »

_RPM wrote: post #319
makecheck wrote: post #274

Imgur forgot its roots as a dumb image host, rapidly crufting-up its service with things that were not only annoying but interfering with its basic function . If you can’t easily see an image as soon as you click on it — on mobile or otherwise — then the image service has completely failed. The sad thing is, they could have added non-intrusive ads. DaringFireball does it; write a single line of text such as “This ima…

The mobile experience was horrible. They were doing some weird scrolling thing where it would really mess up my viewport.

> The mobile experience was horrible.

that's promoting the app installe :(

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by kelukelugames »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #343
kelukelugames wrote: post #277

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I want to make a blog series about these words. Mansplaining? Used to mean condescending entitled douchebag. Now it's anytime a man says something I don't like. Feminism? Putting an end to sexism. Or anytime a woman say something I don't like.

Some material on the subject: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/07/social-justice-and-word...

That's a lot of salt. I can't take seriously people who take tumblr seriously. Maybe I'm lucky.
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