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Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by callumjones »

bryang wrote: post #348
joshdickson wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Daring Fireball does it" has to be the worst possible comparison imaginable. Gruber has super differentiated, high editorial value content that folks will pay a premium to put their message next to. Imgur is about as far away from that as possible. They have to try to make money, it's crazy to sit here and think you know better than they do on this. Don't you think if they could make enough money doing what you thin…

I've never seen Grubers blog until today... Does he only mention the sponsor at the beginning and end of each week? I don't see any other occurrence of the sponsors name.

There are ads from The Deck (which is a semi exclusive advertising network) on the sidebar.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by tqkxzugoaupvwqr »

yc-kraln wrote: post #164

I posted a version of this comment seven years ago in the original reddit launch thread for imgur: I have server resources and happy to host any reasonable attempts to make a quality image host, that have a (to me) valid business plan.

How can I contact you?

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by hexane360 »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #327
MBCook wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know there is some kind of community on Imgur, but I wonder what percent of it (or the content it enjoys) only exists because it was the unofficial image host for Reddit. Once Reddit is largely gone, will the community survive?

Yes, absolutely; the Imgur community is completely and totally distinct from Reddit (to the point where people bitch about even seeing the reddit stuff! There's even the comment-meme 'roddit pls' etc) The big question is simply how Imgur will continue to (sustainably) grow that community. This really brings the question back to the very root: "How do we make Imgur the de-facto image hosting/sharing site in the world"

They bitch about the obvious reddit stuff, but do they realize that most of their content comes from reddit? What happens when most of their posts disappear?

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by cynoclast »

dominotw wrote: post #305
makecheck wrote: post #274

Imgur forgot its roots as a dumb image host, rapidly crufting-up its service with things that were not only annoying but interfering with its basic function . If you can’t easily see an image as soon as you click on it — on mobile or otherwise — then the image service has completely failed. The sad thing is, they could have added non-intrusive ads. DaringFireball does it; write a single line of text such as “This ima…

> Imgur forgot its roots as a dumb image host, rapidly crufting-up its service with things that were not only annoying but interfering with its basic function. Imgur is my main form on entertainment and the app currently lives on my homescreen. Mindless fun and good vibes unlike reddit which makes me angry/sad/depressed. Imgur would have been dead with this Reddit move if they had not evolved, they obviously saw it c…

Imgur had to pay its investors by shitting up its service.

Imgur would have been dead because they were running out of money.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by crescentfresh »

josu wrote: post #287
makecheck wrote: post #274

Imgur forgot its roots as a dumb image host, rapidly crufting-up its service with things that were not only annoying but interfering with its basic function . If you can’t easily see an image as soon as you click on it — on mobile or otherwise — then the image service has completely failed. The sad thing is, they could have added non-intrusive ads. DaringFireball does it; write a single line of text such as “This ima…

Imgur was able to pivot from a simple image hosting service to a standalone community. Many people browse imgur every day without ever having visited reddit. That's no small feat, and definitely much easier to monetize than dumb image host.

> Many people browse imgur every day without ever having visited reddit

I didn't even know you could do that. Last time I went to the site directly (years ago) I recollect all you could do was upload an image or browse random images.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by joshdickson »

bryang wrote: post #348
joshdickson wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Daring Fireball does it" has to be the worst possible comparison imaginable. Gruber has super differentiated, high editorial value content that folks will pay a premium to put their message next to. Imgur is about as far away from that as possible. They have to try to make money, it's crazy to sit here and think you know better than they do on this. Don't you think if they could make enough money doing what you thin…

I've never seen Grubers blog until today... Does he only mention the sponsor at the beginning and end of each week? I don't see any other occurrence of the sponsors name.

If you Google 'DF Sponsorship' you can get all the info (&rates). I believe a weekly sponsorship is about $13k and he does $15k-20k per podcast across 3-4 ad reads.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by simonswords82 »

cynoclast wrote: post #354
dominotw wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Imgur forgot its roots as a dumb image host, rapidly crufting-up its service with things that were not only annoying but interfering with its basic function. Imgur is my main form on entertainment and the app currently lives on my homescreen. Mindless fun and good vibes unlike reddit which makes me angry/sad/depressed. Imgur would have been dead with this Reddit move if they had not evolved, they obviously saw it c…

Imgur had to pay its investors by shitting up its service. Imgur would have been dead because they were running out of money.

That's interesting I didn't know that, have you any figures to hand?

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by billmalarky »

PirateDave wrote: post #342
billmalarky wrote: post #278

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And how many of those services share their user profiles with imgur so that imgur can monetize that data by selling expensive premium ads to advertisers? No one is arguing that facebook/google/tw... (well maybe twitter heheh) aren't profitably mining lots of user data. But imgur probably isn't able to mine much value out of it's own data.

scorecardresearch is the endpoint for comScore which is used to do exactly what you mentioned. Imgur buys the data from comScore as a sort of "online Nielsen rating" in order to sell the value of the site to ad vendors.

If imgur has to buy profiling data from someone else, it isn't really their data is it? That is, imgur could not recreate that same data alone, they need the partner who can get the missing data from the rest of the partner's network.

The bottom line is imgur's data is probably not worth much, what _is_ worth a lot is imgurs traffic, and that traffic is taking a hit from adblock.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by newacct23 »

pjc50 wrote: post #190
redthrowaway wrote: post #163

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sli.mg is the new imgur for /r/the_donald, and other subs whose content imgur regularly censors. I haven't really seen it used "in the wild" on more mainstream subs. It does have a nice, clean and minimalistic interface, similar to what imgur used to have.

How bad are they that they're getting censored off imgur? What for, racial hatred?

Not racial hatred, images of Robert Byrd kissing Hillary Clinton will get censored. Basically anything that is a joke at the expense of Hillary Clinton will get removed.

Re: Reddit launches image uploads, ditching alliance with Imgur

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Post by bostik »

rplnt wrote: post #161
bostik wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with Imgur being obnoxious and a far cry from their early days, they are not as awful as the previous de-facto image sharing site - whatever it was with the green frog as their mascot.

Do you mean imageshack? It's exactly like that. Though imageshack's biggest crime was delete everything (maybe except stuff from paid accounts) at one point in time.

Yup, that was it. Thanks for the name reminder.

And I still stand by my earlier statement: Imgur has declined, but they have not yet stooped to the level of end-user abuse shack did. (Granted, hijacking direct image URLs is sleezy as hell.)

Imageshack made even uploads a chore. Sure, picking the image from your drive was easy - but then they made every attempt possible to force their inline branding into all inbound links.

Getting a hot-linkable image from shack uploads required extra effort. And they tried to trick you into using their quality-degraded downscaled versions everywhere. It was dreadful. I even remember couple of cases where after the upload there was no way of getting the image link out. At all. All you got was a 80x80 thumbnail and a link to their shitty pages where you could, MAYBE, view the image. (Which was, of course, downscaled and further compressed. The original was gone.)

So no, as far as I am concerned, Imgur has not yet reached the imageshack abusement park level.

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