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Namely that MS wanted to bring back some of the billions they have offshore without it getting heavily taxed. Taking this into consideration the acquisition of NOKIA and eventual write down as a loss is not that bad. Especially considering it has kept it windows phone alive, and most likely moved any essential expertise to their other departments
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Nokia was doomed before Elop took over. Kallasvuo was CEO when Apple released the first iPhone, and Kallasvuo was the one who decided that Nokia's existing offerings were good enough to compete, just keep minorly refining things every generation. By the time Elop came in, the ship was already sinking (or, if you prefer, the platform was already burning). Elop's decisions did not turn that around, but realistically, c…
If Elop had bet on Android instead of Windows Phone, Nokia would probably be doing well.
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Symbian devices were actually very good phones . For making and receiving voice calls, they were better than Android has ever been. Of course, as a platform for Web browsing, and particularly for app development, Symbian was not good. But I still miss the phone functionality of my E71, or the Symbian devices I had before it.
> Of course, as a platform for Web browsing, and particularly for app development, Symbian was not good. So in other words - they were great phones , but terrible smartphones? I fully agree.
Android or iPhone could do the same technically, but my employer can no longer use it. The company would give all data about meetings to Google or Apple. It's an absolute no-no.
Thus I sometimes forget my meetings, as the phone no longer reminds me.
Also, the alarm clock of Symbian was great, and i could depend on it. Even if you turned the phone off, it would wake you up. I'm nervous about trusting any Android device to wake me up in the morning if I have to catch a plane or a train (and I understand it's the same with iPhone).
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Why do you think Microsoft continues to develop Windows Phone?
Because they are not done. Remember any of these: Pocket PC, Windows CE, Microsoft Kin, Windows Embedded Handheld, .... MS spent $1 billion for Kin alone. When they consider market to be important to their future, they'll keep going and spending money. Setbacks destroy their partners but they just wait and try again when time is right. MS is still mainly business and OEM sales company. Consumer-centric divisions (inc…
Useless product, nobody uses it, but the fact that they kept investing in it made most competitors lose their nerve.
Just few weeks ago, Nokia announced that Nokia branded smart phones and tablets will be entering market soon. This time they are based on Android OS. It'll be interesting to see how well they'll sell (compared to Windows Phone). http://company.nokia.com/en/our-businesses/nokia-technologie... http://company.nokia.com/en/news/press-releases/2016/05/18/n...
As the second article says, it's not Nokia building them, but letting another company ("HMD global Oy") build them under the Nokia brand. This is similar to what they did with the somewhat recent Nokia N1 tablet: it was built by Foxconn.
"... linux laptops were being reformatted to run windows." Microsoft/Windows is a cancer. Ballmer once said Linux was a cancer. He later retracted, after it was well-known Microsoft itself uses Linux. There's nothing more pathetic than when you see Microsoft's businesspeople or lawyers at conferences all faithfully using Windows, as if there was no other choice, and rambling on about how their products can solve any…
Yet there is NOTHING more pathetic than a gamer using Windows. This is a cancer on his game-brain, nothing more that a zombie-like tunnel-vision of gaming. The gamers are not stupid people yet Microsoft keeps their capable mouse-hands LOCKED away so their skills will never develop beyond what Redmond envisions. Everything MUST BE CONTROLLED through One Microsoft Way, and so Microsoft continues to remain dangerous to the FUTURE of gaming! Lo and behold, the end result is SUPPRESSION OF ALL non-Windows games.
And now - hardware.
"... linux laptops were being reformatted to run windows." Microsoft/Windows is a cancer. Ballmer once said Linux was a cancer. He later retracted, after it was well-known Microsoft itself uses Linux. There's nothing more pathetic than when you see Microsoft's businesspeople or lawyers at conferences all faithfully using Windows, as if there was no other choice, and rambling on about how their products can solve any…
There is nothing more PATHETIC than a designer using Windows. If only he could taste the wonderful FREEDOM of GIMP and throw down the shackles of Microsoft oppression!!! The CANCER would be gone from his brain and he would soar free like a majestic eagle on the winds of unZOMBIEfied morning forever. Yet he tolls forever blinded to independent reasoning about computer software! The work of the blind designer cannot be…
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I remember wanting to buy it. I didn't because back then it was to much money for me. I remember thinking that I defently want a future version of it. For some reason that I don't understand, they continued to push Symbian, and those phones were not good. I remember thinking, either push further on the MeeGo stuff or drop it and move to Android. They did neither and suffered for it.
Symbian devices were actually very good phones . For making and receiving voice calls, they were better than Android has ever been. Of course, as a platform for Web browsing, and particularly for app development, Symbian was not good. But I still miss the phone functionality of my E71, or the Symbian devices I had before it.
Talking is one of my least-used functions on my Android phone. I use it far, far more for texting, apps, internet, navigation, games, photos, and even visual voicemail than I do for talking. I might have a handful of calls a week on it. A phone that's great for talking and sucks for all the other things would be mostly useless to me.
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What makes you think Nokia would have ended up like Samsung/Motorola/HTC rather than Xiaomi/Huawei/etc? Nokia at least had a chance to be one of the profitable ones.
Because every android manufacturer will end with virtually no profit since they are producing a commodity. When you basically can't differentiate with your software except for which shitty skin you layered on top of Android, what makes a samsung better than an lg or any other android device?
"... linux laptops were being reformatted to run windows." Microsoft/Windows is a cancer. Ballmer once said Linux was a cancer. He later retracted, after it was well-known Microsoft itself uses Linux. There's nothing more pathetic than when you see Microsoft's businesspeople or lawyers at conferences all faithfully using Windows, as if there was no other choice, and rambling on about how their products can solve any…
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