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Will you run the closed-source Dropbox kext on your machine?
I will. My system runs lots of closed source code already.
Surely you have higher standards for kernel space.
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#72On box.com only admins can move & rename folders, which makes alot more sense to start off with. With this solution, it seems everyone can still rename the folders. Too bad their (box.com) support is the worst customer experience I've ever whitnessed.
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#73So instead of using a FS shim to userspace on security grounds they decided to distribute a custom kext that's closed source -- ie a great way for normal bugs to turn into dangerous ones? I'm not sure I understand the logic here
Exactly, we should be moving in the opposite direction: make as much software as possible user-space and sandboxed. I assume a party as large as Dropbox can request Apple to extend the APIs where necessary?
If Apple shipped FUSE this would be a lot easier.
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Can you comment on how close the Linux version is? I've periodically checked your website since you commented about the Linux version being in private beta, almost two years ago. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7932916
It's actually in beta now. :)
I've tried to sign up for the beta many times, I don't think I ever got an answer :/ great product on Windows though.
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> I assume a party as large as Dropbox can request Apple to extend the APIs where necessary? As large? Dropbox is like a fly to Apple. Not to mention competitors. And they haven't budged for much larger parties. So, unless it's something that Apple intends to do anyway, Dropbox's request will don't have much success.
> So, unless it's something that Apple intends to do anyway, Dropbox's request will don't have much success. You'd think Apple would be happy to add extensions they themselves could use in the future to replace Dropbox with their own iCloud extension.
> You'd think Apple would be happy to add extensions they themselves could use in the future to replace Dropbox with their own iCloud extension.
Not that I follow such things closely, but I can't recall ever having heard about Apple being happy to do something for someone who wasn't Apple. Do such things happen?
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#77This seems incredibly over engineered. One less system call? Great, but I'd rather the service just be cheaper. Skip the blog posts and just ship it already!
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Just a data point: Fastmail got them to implement/support push for Fastmail on iOS (no, it's not just IMAP IDLE).
Interestingly enough, you don't need Apple's support to do that: https://github.com/st3fan/dovecot-xaps-daemon . Apple didn't have to build an API for them, they simply provided documentation for how to use the existing API.
Ah, that's nice! Though their blog post at the time seemed to indicate that Apple helped them a bit:
https://blog.fastmail.com/2015/07/17/push-email-now-availabl...
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Looking back that's the e-mail one of the messages went to. It was actually a reply to your seemingly automated messages saying "...please don't hesitate to shoot me an email..." and my reply didn't seem to generate any response. But poof, into thin air it all went. I'm a bit biased here because it just drives me nuts when all these companies pretend to play nice publicly by answering comments (like mine! thank you,…
fair enough. Shoot me an email if you're still interested
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Just a data point: Fastmail got them to implement/support push for Fastmail on iOS (no, it's not just IMAP IDLE).
Sure, and occasionally the add stuff and consult with Mac software houses and indie devs (or musicians and editors for their Pro stuff) on what to add etc. But that's not the same as building a bunch of APIs for a competitor.
Like the whole Swift open-source ecosystem.