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Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by spydertennis »

blindfly wrote: post #28
hemancuso wrote: post #24

If you want to try out a FUSE-style Dropbox filesystem, I write one. It's available on Mac, Windows and soon Linux. [shameless plug] http://www.expandrive.com The bit I don't quite understand about Project infinite is that you still have to manually decide what gets sync'd or not. It's also not a network volume, so things like virus scanners or search indexers can just page in-data? And if you want to offload data, y…

I've looked at your software a few times before. I've also tried to reach out to you before. To date I've never seen a response from you and I've moved on. I'm not stoked to see you're available to drop your product name in a thread about another company but inquiries to your own go unanswered.

Maybe he doesn't want to talk to you. I'm not stoked to see you commenting about your personal issues.

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by hemancuso »

blindfly wrote: post #28
hemancuso wrote: post #24

If you want to try out a FUSE-style Dropbox filesystem, I write one. It's available on Mac, Windows and soon Linux. [shameless plug] http://www.expandrive.com The bit I don't quite understand about Project infinite is that you still have to manually decide what gets sync'd or not. It's also not a network volume, so things like virus scanners or search indexers can just page in-data? And if you want to offload data, y…

I've looked at your software a few times before. I've also tried to reach out to you before. To date I've never seen a response from you and I've moved on. I'm not stoked to see you're available to drop your product name in a thread about another company but inquiries to your own go unanswered.

jmancuso@expandrive.com if you want to reconnect, sorry if I've missed an email in the past.

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by bad_user »

microtonal wrote: post #6

As a paying Pro customer, I am a bit worried how intent they seem to be on pushing the business/enterprise products. First of all, Dropbox the web application is spammed with Dropbox Business advertising. I am already paying. And, no, my employer (a European university) is unlikely to roll out Dropbox Business. So please stop bugging me :(. Secondly, more and more features are rolled out to business users first. Why?…

I'm having the same experience.

Ironically, I would upgrade to a business account, if not for the "minimum 5 accounts" limit.

Now what in the world would I do with 5 accounts Dropbox? Should I pull like a company out of my ass?

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by microtonal »

coldtea wrote: post #16
microtonal wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, we should be moving in the opposite direction: make as much software as possible user-space and sandboxed. I assume a party as large as Dropbox can request Apple to extend the APIs where necessary?

> I assume a party as large as Dropbox can request Apple to extend the APIs where necessary? As large? Dropbox is like a fly to Apple. Not to mention competitors. And they haven't budged for much larger parties. So, unless it's something that Apple intends to do anyway, Dropbox's request will don't have much success.

Just a data point: Fastmail got them to implement/support push for Fastmail on iOS (no, it's not just IMAP IDLE).

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by kilroy123 »

microtonal wrote: post #6

As a paying Pro customer, I am a bit worried how intent they seem to be on pushing the business/enterprise products. First of all, Dropbox the web application is spammed with Dropbox Business advertising. I am already paying. And, no, my employer (a European university) is unlikely to roll out Dropbox Business. So please stop bugging me :(. Secondly, more and more features are rolled out to business users first. Why?…

I 100% agree. It annoys me greatly, to be a paying customer, and to be nagged to become a business user. It's a bit of a slap in the face, IMO.

I don't have a business, I already give you money, and now you want even more?

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by bad_user »

radicaldreamer wrote: post #10
microtonal wrote: post #6

As a paying Pro customer, I am a bit worried how intent they seem to be on pushing the business/enterprise products. First of all, Dropbox the web application is spammed with Dropbox Business advertising. I am already paying. And, no, my employer (a European university) is unlikely to roll out Dropbox Business. So please stop bugging me :(. Secondly, more and more features are rolled out to business users first. Why?…

I killed my Dropbox Pro account and upgraded iCloud storage because the integration with the Photos app in iOS is way superior and the lack of something like Project Infinite, which results in a lot of manual folder management for my long tail of old docs. Dropbox's core sync technology is still unmatched, but the Pro offering leaves a lot to be desired over some of the better integrated experiences of Google and App…

Going for iCloud, that's an odd decision, frankly. I would have understood Google Drive, but not iCloud.

When it comes to my personal photos archive, I care about 2 things: (1) occasional sharing and (2) keeping my huge archive safe. Dropbox does both, iCloud does neither.

iCloud sharing only works with people using iDevices and I don't have many acquaintances or family members with a preference for Apple. Dropbox allows for publishing to a web link, with or without a password, with or without an expiration date. And that's cool, because I can send that link to anybody. Cross-platform and all that.

In terms of safety, I keep an extra offline backup by means of a home Linux server that's almost always on, synchronizing my Dropbox and does the occasional local backup. It has a big hard-drive of course. Dropbox works on Linux, iCloud does not. Also Dropbox provides a 30-days history of all changes and a 1-year extended history for extra cost. I got the 1-year extended history. With iCloud get some Ransomware and watch in horror how all of your photos are gone.

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by aw3c2 »

skrowl wrote: post #11
urza wrote: post #2

Thanks to dropbox inifit I discovered Infinit.sh - http://infinit.sh/ which I got really excited about. I wonder what is their experience with using FUSE and DOKANY..

I have a similar success story. Thanks to Dropbox spamming me with "OMG UPGRADE!" every time I clicked anything, I found out about SyncThing (specifically SyncTrayzor for Windows). Thanks, Dropbox!

Also checkout Seafile if you want something more Dropboxy.

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by mantasm »

microtonal wrote: post #34
coldtea wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I assume a party as large as Dropbox can request Apple to extend the APIs where necessary? As large? Dropbox is like a fly to Apple. Not to mention competitors. And they haven't budged for much larger parties. So, unless it's something that Apple intends to do anyway, Dropbox's request will don't have much success.

Just a data point: Fastmail got them to implement/support push for Fastmail on iOS (no, it's not just IMAP IDLE).

Interestingly enough, you don't need Apple's support to do that: https://github.com/st3fan/dovecot-xaps-daemon.

Apple didn't have to build an API for them, they simply provided documentation for how to use the existing API.

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by blindfly »

hemancuso wrote: post #32
blindfly wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've looked at your software a few times before. I've also tried to reach out to you before. To date I've never seen a response from you and I've moved on. I'm not stoked to see you're available to drop your product name in a thread about another company but inquiries to your own go unanswered.

jmancuso@expandrive.com if you want to reconnect, sorry if I've missed an email in the past.

Looking back that's the e-mail one of the messages went to. It was actually a reply to your seemingly automated messages saying "...please don't hesitate to shoot me an email..." and my reply didn't seem to generate any response. But poof, into thin air it all went. I'm a bit biased here because it just drives me nuts when all these companies pretend to play nice publicly by answering comments (like mine! thank you, first time I've heard from you even if it is just brushing my comment off as "sorry if I've missed an email..."), responding to tweets and everything else but then behind closed doors it's a totally different setup. Perhaps you were just busy who knows. I just feel like this is a trend in the industry and it drives me a little nuts.

Re: Dropbox: Going Deeper with Project Infinite

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Post by blindfly »

spydertennis wrote: post #31
blindfly wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've looked at your software a few times before. I've also tried to reach out to you before. To date I've never seen a response from you and I've moved on. I'm not stoked to see you're available to drop your product name in a thread about another company but inquiries to your own go unanswered.

Maybe he doesn't want to talk to you. I'm not stoked to see you commenting about your personal issues.

Well if he didn't want to talk to me, he might rethink sending messages to people blindly asking them to get in touch.
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