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Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

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Are you refering to the following issue? https://github.com/opal/opal/issues/941

Yup. I believe GitHub's hiring of her constitutes a tacit endorsement of that behaviour.

Which is a bit ironic, given your strongly arguing in https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/... that a user's outside-of-project behavior shouldn't impact that project at all.

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

#52
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Gitlab has been the first "developer tools" company I have been using since fairly early on. I fucking love them, think Holman will be a phenomenal addition, and am just super excited for the new products/services they will be offering. godspeed gitlabs...and I mean that somewhat literally. You guys have to improve your speed a bit, but Holman was there for github's scaling activities, so maybe that is one place they…

Thanks for your kind words Samuel. We love you too! And we're working on the speed of GitLab.com in https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/operations/issues/42 GitLab installations on-premises should be fast already. But the nice thing is they are also benefitting from the improvements we're making for .com

Sid, you're a legend mate. Keep up the good work.

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

#53

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Yup. I believe GitHub's hiring of her constitutes a tacit endorsement of that behaviour.

Which is a bit ironic, given your strongly arguing in https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/... that a user's outside-of-project behavior shouldn't impact that project at all.

Except that in this case, she is being hired in part because of her Social Justice advocacy. At least I assume so, & GitHub hasn't exactly been forthcoming on the matter.

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

#54

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Which is a bit ironic, given your strongly arguing in https://github.com/ContributorCovenant/contributor_covenant/... that a user's outside-of-project behavior shouldn't impact that project at all.

Except that in this case, she is being hired in part because of her Social Justice advocacy. At least I assume so, & GitHub hasn't exactly been forthcoming on the matter.

"At least I assume so"

Like some might assume a project's core contributor's behavior is known of and condoned by the project, perhaps?

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

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post #21

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He discussed the firing here: https://zachholman.com/talk/firing-people

Wow. That really tanked my opinion of github. I had been talking to various officials in leadership for a few months hammering out the details and had been under the impression that we had reached an agreement, but I was surprised to find out that wasn’t the case. I was informed 28 hours before my 90 day window closed that the agreement I had thought I had didn’t exist; it was then that I realized I had 28 hours to e…

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Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

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post #19

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Zach's advocacy of GitHub was one of the reasons I became such a fan over the years. Ever since they fired him, things haven't quite felt the same... I don't know the exact circumstances around his departure, but I do know that GitHub lost someone who, for me, had become one of the leading faces of the company. Of course, maybe that's exactly why the let him go. Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing him do the sa…

He discussed the firing here: https://zachholman.com/talk/firing-people

This was a great read. More than him getting fired, I was more upset about the below:

  Even though I helped move a company’s valuation almost two billion dollars, I haven’t made a dime from the company outside of making a pretty below-to-average salary. That’s after six years.
I guess the thing was, I was reading the whole article with a 'Shit happens to millionaires' mindset. That totally changed everything in my head.

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

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post #21

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He discussed the firing here: https://zachholman.com/talk/firing-people

Wow. That really tanked my opinion of github. I had been talking to various officials in leadership for a few months hammering out the details and had been under the impression that we had reached an agreement, but I was surprised to find out that wasn’t the case. I was informed 28 hours before my 90 day window closed that the agreement I had thought I had didn’t exist; it was then that I realized I had 28 hours to e…

>demand either an 83b

What you actually need to ask for in this case is RSUs (vs options). The 83b election is something you independently file with the IRS. (you may need a letter from the company for proof, but they'll have drafts of those already that they've used for the founders -- speaking from experience as the person who set this up for our company)

However, RSUs only make sense in the seed stage. Past A round, the 10 year exercise window or an early exercise clause of ISOs into RSUs might make sense depending on the numbers, but likely not.

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

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His writeup: https://zachholman.com/talk/firing-people We cannot know for sure whether it has anything to do with his firing (and he doesn't mention it in the writeup), but Julie Ann Horvath did accuse Zach of harassing her at GitHub.

I don't think this had anything to do with that incident, as Zach worked at GitHub for a long time (years?) after it happened. Here's an excerpt from GitHub's internal investigation which talks about the allegations other than those alleged against Tom Preston-Werner: > As to the remaining allegations, the investigation found no evidence of gender-based discrimination, harassment, retaliation, or abuse. https://githu…

That's just the public report. It is perfectly consistent for a company to publicly say nothing wrong occurred, while quietly firing some of the few individuals involved. Personally, the sudden-ness and lack of reasons for firing lead me to suspect it was a reason.

I realize this is unsubstantiated speculation on my part, so take this all with a grain of salt.

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

#59
@sytse (and @holman, now!)

As of the latest Gitlab (8.8.1), my "this breaks Gitlab" commit of the Linux Kernel sources (https://gitlab.com/nrclark/dummy_project/commit/81ebdea5df2f...) still breaks Gitlab.

When I first submitted this as a bug in December, the act of clicking on the commit would cause a Gitlab worker crash and the UI would either hang or return a 503 error. Five releases later, my sample commit still takes 10-20 seconds to load. Once it does load, it grinds my browser to a painful javascript standstill, and I have to close the tab.

Can we get some smarter diff handling on the roadmap? Please? There was a fix deployed a couple of releases ago, but the behavior is still pretty broken. :(

Re: Zach Holman joins GitLab as advisor

#60
post #41

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Wow. That really tanked my opinion of github. I had been talking to various officials in leadership for a few months hammering out the details and had been under the impression that we had reached an agreement, but I was surprised to find out that wasn’t the case. I was informed 28 hours before my 90 day window closed that the agreement I had thought I had didn’t exist; it was then that I realized I had 28 hours to e…

>demand either an 83b What you actually need to ask for in this case is RSUs (vs options). The 83b election is something you independently file with the IRS. (you may need a letter from the company for proof, but they'll have drafts of those already that they've used for the founders -- speaking from experience as the person who set this up for our company) However, RSUs only make sense in the seed stage. Past A roun…

Can you explain why RSUs are better than ISOs that convert to NSOs on departure?
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