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How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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It's a little ironic that in the summer they have achieved Windows everywhere, that it would coincide with my first summer of Windows nowhere.

I bet it has been a great summer so far too

All they needed for Windows back then reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhh_GeBPOhs I miss that guy

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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post #92

It's a little ironic that in the summer they have achieved Windows everywhere, that it would coincide with my first summer of Windows nowhere.

I had a little funeral for my last Windows machine when I powered it off last Fall, as I no longer have much time for video games (Windows's last hold-out). Given MS's dominance throughout the 90s and early 2000s, I never thought the day would come. I still have an old Windows VM hanging around on an external drive somewhere, should the day ever come where I need to fire it up, but honestly I can't think of a reason why I'd have to do it these days.

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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post #92

It's a little ironic that in the summer they have achieved Windows everywhere, that it would coincide with my first summer of Windows nowhere.

Did you steal that from the Ars comments, or are you the same guy trying to get cleverness points twice?

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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ObjC ain't going anywhere.

The amount of ObjC sessions at last WWDC 2015 and the upcoming WWDC 2016 send another message.

Yup. The Standard Apple Deprecation Cycle works something like this:

1. New shiny thing is announced

2. Old busted thing starts getting talked about less

3. New shiny thing becomes the default, old busted thing hidden away

4. Official deprecation warnings issued

5. Old busted thing stops being supported. Apple being Apple, this quickly leads to

6. Old busted thing stops working altogether after something like an OS update.

We're currently at step 2. Originally I thought that Obj-C would be kicking around for a lot longer, but given that Apple dropped an entire CPU architecture in relatively short order, and their scorched earth attitude towards backwards compatibility...

I give it 2, maybe 3 years before ObjC isn't officially supported in Xcode anymore.

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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First immediate thought: Can you get virus/malware scanners for XBox? Otherwise, it seems an immediate easy target for a new botnet.

Aren't the Xbox One apps only delivered via the Windows (App) Store though? So they have the benefit of being sandboxed and needing to be reviewed in some form or another by MS before appearing.

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Apparently it's also extremely slow, to the point that it needs a loading screen : https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/3ng3f4/windows_10_...

UWP apps (excluding the start menu) all just have a splash screen when you launch them, it doesn't have anything to do with 'speed'.

> it doesn't have anything to do with 'speed'.

Even then, that means it has to do with speed but in an even worse way. An artificial slowdown added to everything.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

ObjC ain't going anywhere.

The amount of ObjC sessions at last WWDC 2015 and the upcoming WWDC 2016 send another message.

ObjC will be around much longer than 3 years. It can't be deprecated until most of OS X is rewritten.

Remember how long it took them to get rid of the Carbon Finder?

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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As a long-time Win32 programmer (over a decade), I can safely say that the vast majority of existing applications still remain (for the time being) forward-compatible. Here's some examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOj-bAZBhnE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRfn4M5DXTE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqFWuNmWbHk The reasons people hold off on "upgrading" Windows versions is not mainly because of compatibility…

> The reasons people hold off on "upgrading" Windows versions is not mainly because of compatibility, but other factors like unwanted UI changes and removed features, and particularly with Windows 10, the increased data-collection intrusiveness and "we own your machine" attitude Since quite a lot of people swear that they will never upgrade to Windows 10 for those reasons (esp. the data-collection, privacy, telemetry…

People have done that (just search for "Windows 10 disable telemetry", a few of those have made it onto HN too), it probably does violate ToS in some way, and there is certainly a huge "market" for it. Just look at all the "start menu replacements" that appeared when Win8 decided to remove that feature.

The biggest problem I see is that MS has somehow made all the pieces very tightly coupled (e.g. http://superuser.com/questions/957907/unable-to-install-font... ), and in typical fashion these days, has adopted a "you're either with us or against us - it's for your security" attitude in dealing with things like patches and other modifications.

Back in the XP and Vista days, well-meaning people would make customised versions of OS install images with a lot of these types of changes and share them. Piracy aside, that movement was mostly decimated by claims that all of them contained malware. Sure there were some, but a lot less than the FUD wants you to think, and the community of more experienced users quickly discovered and strongly called out those who tried. Maybe the "malwarez" creators have blossomed since then, I don't know; I haven't been following that scene for a while.

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I don't like the Universal apps or whatever they're calling them this month. They are limited, slow, crashy and buggy. They regularly just disappear after a sleep and wake. I have been left questioning my sanity wondering if I closed Messenger. Also, they are clunky and slow. For example, switch to a desktop with a universal app open and for the duration of the desktop slide animation, the app window will be complete…

As a side note, I fixed the Start menu searching issue by disabling the slide animation for the menu: http://lifehacker.com/disable-this-animation-to-make-windows...

That dialog appears to have remained with little change since XP. I always use "adjust for best performance" (which clears all the boxes), then select only "show windows contents while dragging". Everything instantly becomes so much faster.

Re: How Windows Everywhere finally happened

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I despise Microsoft for this. Two days ago, my dad accidentally triggered an upgrade to Windows 10. In a panic, he switched the computer off, and now it no longer boots. It's now down to me to repair the computer. Apparently, months of dismissing the pop up invitations to upgrade to Windows 10 were not enough for Microsoft, they had to go and practically force it down people's throats. And my family is paying the pri…

Time to consider an OS change maybe?

Given the number of large organizations that appear to have been paralyzed for much of a decade by the problems of switching from XP/IE6 to Windows 7/IE11, a whole new OS might be a bit of a challenge.....
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