Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

Post by [deleted] » Fri, May 20, 2016, 6:42 PM UTC

mastax wrote: post #188

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Unity is itself a proprietary, single-vendor, closed-source plugin. Though I don't disagree at all, transitioning from one proprietary, single-vendor, closed-source plugin to another isn't actually going to solve the problems that killing Flash is supposed to solve (apart from the one where Flash is also a gigantic legacy-code monument to all our sins, of course ;) ).

Unity you output WebGl-based games, see http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/webgl-building.html From what I remember it's not as performant or reliable as the plugin, so there's some work to be done on unity's end. Beyond that, if browser makers want to replace native code plugins they have to give a better alternative. WebAssembly might help, but since it's essentially running in the same vm as JS I'm not sure it'll be f…

Post by ramy_d » Fri, May 20, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

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I did a cursory search out of curiosity: TV has a 7 second delay they add themselves to filter content. The broadcast itself is pretty much instant. It's impressive.

I work for a church that does live broadcasts. We see about a 3-5 second delay on OTA and about a 4-6 second delay on cable. We are tied to the tv station by a fiber line and they are only a block or so away.

Post by tudorw » Fri, May 20, 2016, 6:54 PM UTC

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Because the internet is no longer fair :( Things are breaking, I cannot get a mail server set up to send mail to microsoft owned properties, no bounce message just a void, I'm 10/10 on mail-test .com, DMARC, SPF, PTR, no RBL, just m$ don't want me to send email to their users, a private RBL maybe, I cannot know because they don't reply to communications regarding it, nothing to do with this point, except it's asympto…

They do maintain their own blacklist, which doesn't seem to be listed on any of the public monitors. When I had this issue it did give a helpful bounce message: Client host blocked using FBLW15; To request removal from this list please forward this message to delist@messaging.microsoft.com (in reply to RCPT TO command) I did as it said and forwarded the message to that address, and got an automated reply and my IP re…

Post by oolongCat » Fri, May 20, 2016, 7:05 PM UTC

fixermark wrote: post #126

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Flash is garbage, yes! I agree, I am talking about these blocking changes as a whole. Flash while it is indeed a piece of garbage, has done a lot for the internet, there are many places of the internet that are flash dependent. Some companies are still using flash in their internal systems, how do you justify breaking something that works for so many people?

The existence of alternative browsers. If your company is relying on Flash, Chrome just put itself out of the running for being your enterprise's solution. By all means, use the browsers you need to get your work done. The fact this is a price Chrome is willing to pay indicates just how dead Flash is, and how much browser vendors are willing to kill it.

Post by samsonradu » Fri, May 20, 2016, 7:12 PM UTC

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What happens to all those kids sites that have flash games? Our school lets the kids play cartoonnetwork (and tons of others) games.

Those sites will likely adapt or go obsolete. There are game engines now that can compile to a pure HTML / css/ Javascript runtime.