I don't care so much about video, but audio. I can't find a site that streams audio with out flash. This is how this change will affect me.
Rdio had a good HTML5-based player before they bit the dust.
Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
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Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because conveniently several of them are Google properties. If their sites weren't top 10, but top 20, then we would see the top 20 sites exempt.
Why would they build html5 versions of their properties and then serve flash versions to their html5 browser?
Because they don’t have html5 versions of all of their properties? several of them are still flash-only, for example, Google Finance.
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#33I don't care so much about video, but audio. I can't find a site that streams audio with out flash. This is how this change will affect me.
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Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#34I don't care so much about video, but audio. I can't find a site that streams audio with out flash. This is how this change will affect me.
What happens to all those kids sites that have flash games? Our school lets the kids play cartoonnetwork (and tons of others) games.
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#35Why are the top ten sites exempt?
Because Google of 2010s is the same as Microsoft of the 1990s. The only difference being most of the tech world in the 90s realized how badly Microsoft was abusing their position and almost nobody complains about Google. Just to be clear; I'm in favor of ditching the include Flash by default in Chrome, but I'm not in favor of them making exceptions for certain sites. That's just horse shit.
> almost nobody complains about Google
That's because most of the tech world in the 2010s understands the difference.
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#36This is a real blow to sites that rely on Flash's RTMP for low-latency live streaming. There's no real HTML5 equivalent right now. HLS and MPEG-DASH have a delay of around 30 seconds, often more.
We did tests here and got down to 8 seconds end to end delay, including transcoding. but also HTTP2.0 push will be super interesting here.
Wow, impressive! I'm waiting for the day where my internet stream is 'Live' like my television is 'live.'
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#37Funny, HTML5 streaming in Chrome often breaks for me and I have to restart to fix this.
Unfortunately, I can't reproduce this reliably, otherwise I'd file a bug.
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#38I don't care so much about video, but audio. I can't find a site that streams audio with out flash. This is how this change will affect me.
Including Google's own Google Music, I use Firefox in my daily browsing without Flash installed, when I want to listen to my music i've to start Google Chrome which has Flash by default. The experimental HTML5-audio toggle is always disabled for me.
Play Music always uses HTML5 now, which is why the toggle is not available (but it's indicated badly). You can disable the built-in Flash on chrome://plugins and everything will still work.
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#39You can still use Flash if you click-to-play, or you can white-list an address.
Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5
#40Why are the top ten sites exempt?
It does seem like a rather arbitrary decision, but they only get 1 year extension (hopefully there won't be some "last-minute compromises", to allow say the top 3 sites use flash for yet another year).