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Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

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Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

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Post by flyinghamster »

tudorw wrote: post #4
cmdrfred wrote: post #2

Why are the top ten sites exempt?

Because the internet is no longer fair :( Things are breaking, I cannot get a mail server set up to send mail to microsoft owned properties, no bounce message just a void, I'm 10/10 on mail-test .com, DMARC, SPF, PTR, no RBL, just m$ don't want me to send email to their users, a private RBL maybe, I cannot know because they don't reply to communications regarding it, nothing to do with this point, except it's asympto…

Could this be IPv6-related? I've run my own server for a long time, but when I spun up a new VPS and enabled IPv6, I suddenly couldn't send mail to Comcast customers. It seems that the single default IPv6 address fell into a privately-blacklisted /64. I was able to work around it by firewalling Comcast's IPv6 MX hosts, but getting my own /64 was the real fix.

On the other hand, I don't know anyone with an @some-microsoft-property email address, so I don't know whether I'll be having trouble sending things there. I can reach Gmail and Yahoo (and after getting my own /64, Comcast) without trouble, though.

EDIT: Hmmm, mail-test.com seems to be a parked domain.

Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

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Post by cornedor »

PretzelFisch wrote: post #22

I don't care so much about video, but audio. I can't find a site that streams audio with out flash. This is how this change will affect me.

Including Google's own Google Music, I use Firefox in my daily browsing without Flash installed, when I want to listen to my music i've to start Google Chrome which has Flash by default. The experimental HTML5-audio toggle is always disabled for me.

Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

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Post by slederer »

innix wrote: post #23

This is a real blow to sites that rely on Flash's RTMP for low-latency live streaming. There's no real HTML5 equivalent right now. HLS and MPEG-DASH have a delay of around 30 seconds, often more.

We did tests here and got down to 8 seconds end to end delay, including transcoding. but also HTTP2.0 push will be super interesting here.

Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

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Post by dingaling »

BugsBunnySan wrote: post #16

well, good riddance to flash, but Encrypted Media Extensions are definitly not an advantage, see for example https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/save-firefox

> but Encrypted Media Extensions are definitly not an advantage

Yes, it is dishonest of Google to keep referring to 'the Open Web' when 'HTML5 video' is heading towards being simply an enabler for other proprietary plug-ins.

The Open Web of binary blobs.

Re: Google moves to replace Flash with HTML5

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Post by cornedor »

flyinghamster wrote: post #21
tudorw wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the internet is no longer fair :( Things are breaking, I cannot get a mail server set up to send mail to microsoft owned properties, no bounce message just a void, I'm 10/10 on mail-test .com, DMARC, SPF, PTR, no RBL, just m$ don't want me to send email to their users, a private RBL maybe, I cannot know because they don't reply to communications regarding it, nothing to do with this point, except it's asympto…

Could this be IPv6-related? I've run my own server for a long time, but when I spun up a new VPS and enabled IPv6, I suddenly couldn't send mail to Comcast customers. It seems that the single default IPv6 address fell into a privately-blacklisted /64. I was able to work around it by firewalling Comcast's IPv6 MX hosts, but getting my own /64 was the real fix. On the other hand, I don't know anyone with an @some-micro…

A college of my has struggled days with this issue, gmail wouldn't accept any mail send from a IPv6, ended up disabling IPv6 at the end. It seems like google only uses IPv6 for internal mail's, sending a mail to another account sends them using IPv4. Even Facebook, Microsoft etc still use IPv4 for their email's.
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