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Google Finance still uses Flash: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AGOOG I really wish they didn't leave it to rot.
Site even says when viewing without flash:"For the ubercool interactive charts, you need to install the Adobe Flash Player"
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But Flash is garbage, and has been for a long time.
Flash is garbage, yes! I agree, I am talking about these blocking changes as a whole. Flash while it is indeed a piece of garbage, has done a lot for the internet, there are many places of the internet that are flash dependent. Some companies are still using flash in their internal systems, how do you justify breaking something that works for so many people?
Now think of IE6 deprecation.
Google Finance still uses Flash: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ%3AGOOG I really wish they didn't leave it to rot.
Yea the graphs are terrible there without flash Site even says when viewing without flash:"For the ubercool interactive charts, you need to install the Adobe Flash Player"
Getting really frustrated with all the things chrome is starting to change. We are starting to become a bunch of sheep, if google wants something, they announce it, and implement it, we developers, users have to fall in line and start doing everything they want. What the hell is going on, why are we not pissed off about this. Look I hate Flash as much as the other guy, but blocking an extention just because a company…
> We are starting to become a bunch of sheep
You might be, but not all of us are.
> why are we not pissed off about this
About them blocking (but still bundling) flash in 2016? I'd honestly be more questioning why they ever bundled it in the first place. I use Safari and have not installed Flash in.. years.
But if you mean pissed off about Google using it's position of power to arbitrarily decide what technology "wins" and "loses" - people are pissed off. Unfortunately, there is seemingly an entire generation of developers who are somehow perpetually convinced Google is the second coming of jesus, and that anything they do must be a good thing.
I've seen developers who will argue that they use emacs/vim over a full IDE "because now I'm not reliant, I can work on a server if i need to" and then use Google for fucking everything. So the lesson is, you can't become dependent on something you actually have control over, like a laptop, but it's fine to become dependent on a mega-corporation that has a history of just abandoning shit because nothing ever lives up to the ridiculous amounts of profits made by being a creepy personal data collecting tracker of fucking everything.
Regardless of your thoughts about flash, this is the perfect opportunity to explore the world outside google. Other browsers exist. Other search engines exist. Other ad networks (and less fucking creepy ones) exist. Go forth. Be adventurous. Be free. Seriously.
Anyone who thinks Google's level of control on the web (search engine, browser, data centres, home internet connections, mobile phones) isn't a massive risk is kidding themselves.
Edit: for clarity, I'm not arguing that the situation isn't fucked, just saying, don't lie down and accept it. Also, have an up vote, because, you know, the voting system here is fucked.
> DRM is a hugely important part of the online video workflow and HTML5 offers a very useful tool with Encrypted Media Extensions. DRM has never been important for online video workflow and it's only useful in the way a walled garden is useful... it will require that each pair of browser-website (with EME) negotiate before allowing it, basically making it impossible for smaller browsers to become useful at all
Yes it has. Always.
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Including Google's own Google Music, I use Firefox in my daily browsing without Flash installed, when I want to listen to my music i've to start Google Chrome which has Flash by default. The experimental HTML5-audio toggle is always disabled for me.
Play Music always uses HTML5 now, which is why the toggle is not available (but it's indicated badly). You can disable the built-in Flash on chrome://plugins and everything will still work.
Getting really frustrated with all the things chrome is starting to change. We are starting to become a bunch of sheep, if google wants something, they announce it, and implement it, we developers, users have to fall in line and start doing everything they want. What the hell is going on, why are we not pissed off about this. Look I hate Flash as much as the other guy, but blocking an extention just because a company…
It's their browser, they can do what they like.
Why are the top ten sites exempt?
well, good riddance to flash, but Encrypted Media Extensions are definitly not an advantage, see for example https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/save-firefox
EME is a huge advantage from a security perspective because it avoids pulling in a massive platform (Flash, Silverlight) just to play video. We can debate other aspects but from a security perspective moving to a small, tightly-scoped module is a big win and that's important when the cost of vulnerabilities is in the billions per year. It's also somewhat good for the web since both of those platforms are competitors…
