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Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by netinstructions »

lanestp wrote: post #49

Google knows that this is a developer conference right? I feel like I'm at CES. I don't care about any of their apps unless there is some really cool integrations I can do. Talk API's or this is just noise.

Well, this is the keynote, which is generally used to debut things and get people (and especially the press) excited about the new things. I'd expect the subsequent sessions will have more developer specific details.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by Jtsummers »

Touche wrote: post #37
tdkl wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a classic Google delusion - they produce keynote demos, not products. This Allo app doesn't solve the problem of people (that actually means all people you talk to) having to opt into it.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messa... > "It's really liberating to start from scratch sometimes," says Erik Kay Yeah, developers hate maintenance and improving existing products, but for users having 12 chat apps is really annoying.

From your article:

  In the example Google showed us, a graduation photo came
  through. The suggested replies were along the lines of
  "Congratulations!" and "You look great!" Think for a moment about
  what it takes to do that. Google recognized it was a graduation
  photo and then went a step beyond just guessing what it was, it
  guessed at appropriate responses.
Umm. Its suggestions are no better than a simple like. It's less than greeting card sentiment. And it removes the need to even know what you're looking at. I'm not sure that's really a positive thing. Thread full of messages responding to pictures that the users never looked at. It's bad enough that for many people birthday and anniversary and holiday well-wishes are a simple "Happy Holidays" on someone's FB timeline or a text. Do we really need to automate sending those so that the sentiment is delivered but never actually shared?

Dystopian future headline from December 25th, 2040: Millions of zombie "Happy Holiday" texts, Google to use death certificate database to fight zombies.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by Jtsummers »

lanestp wrote: post #49

Google knows that this is a developer conference right? I feel like I'm at CES. I don't care about any of their apps unless there is some really cool integrations I can do. Talk API's or this is just noise.

Google knows that this part is being watched by lots of people. This is where most media coverage will come from that the average user will encounter.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by mathgeek »

sschueller wrote: post #39
sidcool wrote: post #17

New Communication apps: New Messaging app Allo. It can add emojis, whisper or shout and has smart replies like Inbox. It can also reply to images. And has the Google smart assistant.

This is so DOA, bots can do most if this already in existing messaging app. Not putting this in hangout is a death blow. I'm not installing another chat app.

> Not putting this in hangout is a death blow. I'm not installing another chat app.

This is a big one for me. Unless I can have my A/V calls and SMS messages in the same app as other chat, I'm not going to use it.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by unprepare »

jon-wood wrote: post #28
jon-wood wrote: post #22

I've not watched the keynote yet but I'm hopeful the announcement of Home will also come with opening up of Google Now's voice search similar to Alexa. I really want to like Google Now but it's just so limited at the moment - let me control Spotify, Hue bulbs, and my TV with it please!

Oh, and let me address it with something other than "OK, Google". Let me name it, or set the trigger phrase, or do an interpretive dance. Anything but that awful phrase.

that should have been painfully obvious from the outset.

Has no one but me had friends try to trick my phone into going into voice command by yelling "OK Google" at it when i unlock it?

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by Zikes »

isseu wrote: post #41
Zikes wrote: post #16

Yet another messaging app: Allo. Goodbye Google Talk, Hangouts, Google Voice, and Messenger. This time, they're getting it right!

Looks like a way to join everything Also this is a direct competitor of whatsapp/telegram

Why not just build the same features into Hangouts? It's already got enough momentum, instead they have to start from the ground floor yet again with a completely new app. Is it going to have SMS/MMS support built-in? Do I have to use it alongside Hangouts in the future? What features from Hangouts will I have to give up to use Allo? Are they going to sunset Hangouts, now that I've finally convinced (most) of my friends to at least install it?

I'm pretty tempted to give up on Google and just use Whatsapp. At least I can trust that there's a business behind it in brand and concept. With Google, I haven't the slightest idea how much genuine effort they'll put into Allo. It took them years to fix integration issues with SMS/MMS in Hangouts, and there are still bugs and issues that have been simply ignored.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Post by reustle »

jon-wood wrote: post #22

I've not watched the keynote yet but I'm hopeful the announcement of Home will also come with opening up of Google Now's voice search similar to Alexa. I really want to like Google Now but it's just so limited at the moment - let me control Spotify, Hue bulbs, and my TV with it please!

I use OK Google to control Spotify on my phone already, so it should work already?
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