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Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Yet another messaging app: Allo. Goodbye Google Talk, Hangouts, Google Voice, and Messenger. This time, they're getting it right!

Looks like a way to join everything Also this is a direct competitor of whatsapp/telegram

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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It's a classic Google delusion - they produce keynote demos, not products. This Allo app doesn't solve the problem of people (that actually means all people you talk to) having to opt into it.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messa... > "It's really liberating to start from scratch sometimes," says Erik Kay Yeah, developers hate maintenance and improving existing products, but for users having 12 chat apps is really annoying.

It also learns users that time investing into their apps doesn't last, which is basically company suicide.

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I don't understand why anyone would want to have such a device in their home. How long before they start data mining conversations for better ad targeting? What if a state actor gets access to such devices? Is no one worried at all?

Sure, some people are worried. But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word ("Ok Google" or "Alexa"), so there's no real concern about the companies listening to anything other than your queries. And 99% of people are not interesting enough for a state actor to care about. If you are a spy, criminal, politician, etc., then I'd agree you should think twice about owning one.

> But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word

They always listen but only execute when they hear the triggering phrase.

Otherwise they'd never hear the trigger...

Whether they locally store what they hear prior to the trigger is the concern. I doubt they do but technically it's not challenging.

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> But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word ("Ok Google" or "Alexa") It's not like there's a law of physics requiring that always be true, you're trusting that to: A) Be true now, and B) Keep being true in the future. And it's the sort of claim that is very very easy to lie about.

It's not that easy to lie about - if it's sending everything you say then it'll be sending data over the network as well.

What? They can't wait to send it over later when you actually do use it?

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Kind of cringey, feels like I'm watching a Sillicon Valley scene. Machine learning to one-hit reply "Cute dog"? Billions of dollars and these features seem pretty boring.

I feel like it's only getting worse with this Duo rollout. "We call it 'Knock knock' -- now you can not only see who's calling, but see _why_ they're calling"

Suddenly Gavin Belson curing cancer with compression seems like a better sell.

Re: Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote

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Google knows that this is a developer conference right? I feel like I'm at CES. I don't care about any of their apps unless there is some really cool integrations I can do. Talk API's or this is just noise.
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