This is just sad.
Yet another messaging app. This time with ads built right into your private conversations. And the crowd cheers :(
Google I/O 2016 Live Keynote
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#32Yet another messaging app: Allo. Goodbye Google Talk, Hangouts, Google Voice, and Messenger. This time, they're getting it right!
Are we really saying goodbye to those products or just adding another to the list?
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#33Next step in Allo: just automatically pick the best "smart reply" for me, add "smart questions" and we can leave both sides of the conversation to the bots. "Have your AI assistant contact my AI assistant to work out the details" :)
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, some people are worried. But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word ("Ok Google" or "Alexa"), so there's no real concern about the companies listening to anything other than your queries. And 99% of people are not interesting enough for a state actor to care about. If you are a spy, criminal, politician, etc., then I'd agree you should think twice about owning one.
> But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word ("Ok Google" or "Alexa") It's not like there's a law of physics requiring that always be true, you're trusting that to: A) Be true now, and B) Keep being true in the future. And it's the sort of claim that is very very easy to lie about.
It's not that easy to lie about - if it's sending everything you say then it'll be sending data over the network as well.
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#35You can tell by the name that Allo is going to be a disaster.
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#36Kind of cringey, feels like I'm watching a Sillicon Valley scene. Machine learning to one-hit reply "Cute dog"? Billions of dollars and these features seem pretty boring.
It's a classic Google delusion - they produce keynote demos, not products. This Allo app doesn't solve the problem of people (that actually means all people you talk to) having to opt into it.
Let's hope they allow you to msg people you've had gmail correspondence with. Could be in a separate inbox until you accept them.
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#37Kind of cringey, feels like I'm watching a Sillicon Valley scene. Machine learning to one-hit reply "Cute dog"? Billions of dollars and these features seem pretty boring.
It's a classic Google delusion - they produce keynote demos, not products. This Allo app doesn't solve the problem of people (that actually means all people you talk to) having to opt into it.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/18/11699122/google-allo-messa...
> "It's really liberating to start from scratch sometimes," says Erik Kay
Yeah, developers hate maintenance and improving existing products, but for users having 12 chat apps is really annoying.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, some people are worried. But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word ("Ok Google" or "Alexa"), so there's no real concern about the companies listening to anything other than your queries. And 99% of people are not interesting enough for a state actor to care about. If you are a spy, criminal, politician, etc., then I'd agree you should think twice about owning one.
> But these devices only listen when they hear the wake word ("Ok Google" or "Alexa") It's not like there's a law of physics requiring that always be true, you're trusting that to: A) Be true now, and B) Keep being true in the future. And it's the sort of claim that is very very easy to lie about.
Google and Amazon are huge companies and would face serious liability for falsely advertising that their devices only listened upon hearing the wake word. Moreover, I'm sure someone out there would analyze the network traffic and figure out it did not work as claimed. They have nothing to gain by secretly transmitting data, and everything to lose.
State adversaries are a different story. I don't doubt the NSA might somehow break into Snowden's Echo, but most people don't have such adversaries.
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#39New Communication apps: New Messaging app Allo. It can add emojis, whisper or shout and has smart replies like Inbox. It can also reply to images. And has the Google smart assistant.
This is so DOA, bots can do most if this already in existing messaging app. Not putting this in hangout is a death blow. I'm not installing another chat app.
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#40Google concern about anonymity, cool