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i got arrested, jailed and beaten by police after calling them to help me with a car accident resolution. 4 month and $15000 spent on lawyers later they are still trying to frame me although by now all blood results show that i wasn't under the influence. and the beating, they claim it never happened and are not releasing the surveillance video of the beating. and it happened in my community into which i pay over $10…

what country province city state ?

santa clara county, california

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time I think I can't be shocked, someone steps up to prove me wrong. Evidently "computing while black" is now a thing.

How did the police know he was black from the Craigslist post when they set up the sting?

Why are you so stuck on this? How the police acted after showing up for the purchase is being questioned here, not the concept of a sting operation.

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Wow, I am really looking forward to finding g out more about this. What agency were they with? How often do they do this? Was it random or targeted, and if the latter at the person or device? Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselve…

Jaded guess; still in the guise of the 'buyer' they asked if they could look through the machine. He gave verbal consent at which point they started the search / threat / handcuffing.

They still need to identify themselves as the police. What they displayed is mob behavior; armed people threatening and going through a person's possessions.

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I was with her until she started talking about Trayvon.

Same here. What happened to her son is terrible and I hope she gets justice. But people should also know that the Trayvon Martin Foundation has not adequately reported their financials as they are legally obligated to do. Currently, while unsubstantiated (because nobody knows), it's been stated in several places that the Foundation is being used as a funnel for money directly to Trayvon's family personally, without any uses that correspond to the Foundation's stated purposes. Since they've failed to properly file their Form 990 with the IRS, there's no public record of their finances.

I understand why the incident could have resonated with Ms. Taylor, but I also think as a journalist she has a responsibility to not promote an organization which is flagrantly failing to follow the law around nonprofits. Instead Ms. Taylor could have promoted several other charities with better track records if she felt this was the proper moment and venue to use to promote charities focused on civil rights. For instance [1][2][3][4] all received 5 star ratings on Charity Navigator and have purposes in line with those stated for the Trayvon Martin Foundation.

1. The Southern Center for Human Rights: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary...

2. The National Center for Law and Economic Justice: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary...

3. The Institute for Justice: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary...

4. Futures without Violence: http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably because like many "reporters" at Daily Beast, she apparently has an agenda to push. Why not just report the story, complete with facts like where exactly it happened, and maybe at least one interview with a witness on this "busy street".

Her son got unlawfully arrested and threatened with a gun, off course she has a goddamn agenda to push.

Interesting how the story became standardized in the tail. Sure, an issue here and there, but the last few lines about donating to a charity; it reduced the impact.

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Canada is cold. Australia is expensive and its government is corrupt. But getting to the point, you really shouldn't allow isolated acts like this to influence you. You're much more likely to be killed by the next earthquake in the Bay area then you are to be killed by dopey police officer.

By what definition is this an "isolated" act? And why do you think a death by earthquake is more likely? I don't think the data supports that.

I think the point was, simply, that it's very unlikely. Maybe they should've compared it to being killed in a car accident.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From Australia, live in Japan. Having a gun pointed at you by police would not happen in the situation described.

On the other hand, Japan's justice system has a 99% conviction rate. That doesn't happen without blatant, systemic corruption. I'd rather deal with cops who might shoot me than cops who will definitely get a confession out of me if they want one.

AFAIK a big chunk of the 99% conviction rate is because police will not pursue a case that isn't easy open and shut.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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So the subtext here is that the cops are racist, right? How would the police know the seller of the Macbook was black from the Craigslist post? How did her son know it was a weapon pressed against his back? How could the handcuffs possibly have cut his wrists? Handcuffs don't have, like, blades on them that just cut you as they're hanging off your wrists. Seems like something added to punch-up the narrative. And then…

> This screams "hoax" to me.

Healthy skepticism is useful, but if you think that the editor-at-large of a well known U.S. media publication would conduct a public hoax involving her son, well, you do you.

Re: Arrested by Undercover Officers After Trying to Sell His Laptop Online

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From Australia, live in Japan. Having a gun pointed at you by police would not happen in the situation described.

On the other hand, Japan's justice system has a 99% conviction rate. That doesn't happen without blatant, systemic corruption. I'd rather deal with cops who might shoot me than cops who will definitely get a confession out of me if they want one.

Not very different from the US.

"For 2012, the US Department of Justice reported a 93% conviction rate." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate

In the US you can have your cake and eat it too: get shot by cops and have to plead guilty to avoid spending a huge chunk of your life in jail in favor of spending a slightly smaller chunk of your life in jail. America's the greatest country in the world (when it comes to injustice by the numbers).

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