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This is a good reminder of the various bubbles I live in -- geographic, racial... okay, those two. Appalling. I wish it were more unbelievable.

Every time I think I can't be shocked, someone steps up to prove me wrong. Evidently "computing while black" is now a thing.

How did the police know he was black from the Craigslist post when they set up the sting?

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And what country are you in where things like this don't happen?

From Australia, live in Japan. Having a gun pointed at you by police would not happen in the situation described.

On the other hand, Japan's justice system has a 99% conviction rate. That doesn't happen without blatant, systemic corruption.

I'd rather deal with cops who might shoot me than cops who will definitely get a confession out of me if they want one.

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Canada is cold. Australia is expensive and its government is corrupt. But getting to the point, you really shouldn't allow isolated acts like this to influence you. You're much more likely to be killed by the next earthquake in the Bay area then you are to be killed by dopey police officer.

Australia is corrupt? Compared to where? I immigrated here from the U.S. and the only contact I have with the "government" is my annual tax filing. Where previously I had nearly 6-monthly encounters with police just for (I guess) being a black/Muslim man. "Random" traffic stops escalating to inquiries into everything about my life. Long live Australia. [Edit: I DO routinely run into my neighborhood Australian police…

There's still some dopey shit that happens here, but it's nothing compared to the US. Glad to have you Mahmud.

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Side note - he wasn't arrested, he was handcuffed, had a weapon stuck in his back, was detained, had an illegal search performed on his possessions, and all by purported law enforcement officers who refused to identify themselves. I have some news for you. Arrest means nothing but detained/held/stopped. Most people imagine an arrest action has something formal to it, like having your rights read or someone announcing…

No, they have wide latitude to try to claim probable cause but cannot create probable cause out of thin air. If a court later decides there was none, the evidence is tossed anyway (and permanently tainted).

Police are indeed prohibited from claiming probable cause based on no evidence at all but no-evidence-at-all is about the only no-no. A wide variety of vague actions can be taken as evidence, such "acting nervous", not seeming like you belong in a location, reaching into one's pocket, moving quickly, etc, etc.

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Seriously, either Hong Kong, Japan and Singapore are safest countries than in USA. Need more startup in Singapore.

Sadly, Hong Kong doesn't seem to have much tech.

OSSIC X headphone started one and some Kickstarter campaigns I have no backing on their products, a few amazing technology they can do. Rarely seen startup tech in Singapore.

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Out of the frying pan... http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/04/nsw-po... "New South Wales police are on the verge of securing “extreme” new powers including to impose curfews on citizens, restrict who they spend time with or limit their communications, if they suspect involvement in “serious crime-related activity”. The new “serious crime prevention orders” (SCPO) are similar to the control orders use…

> theft, tax evasion, money laundering or homicide. What the actual fuck? This is despicable no matter what. They just have to be "suspected" to be subject to these insane powers? But, the real insanity is that a crime like tax evasion is included in this list. Seriously. Tax evasion? Now, I know that the thing these all have in common is that they're commonly purpetrated by the mob and all, but tax evasion just does…

You don't want tax evaders out after 9pm, prowling around and evading taxes in the shadows, do you? Actually, I suspect the tax evasion and money laundering are mostly referring to drug-related crime without calling it out explicitly and arousing (more) controversy.

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Seriously? You're really willing to make that comment? After George just tried to auction off the gun he used to kill Trayvon? Even after he's had multiple run ins with the law due to gun violence since he killed Trayvon? Really? I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities…

It's probably because like many "reporters" at Daily Beast, she apparently has an agenda to push. Why not just report the story, complete with facts like where exactly it happened, and maybe at least one interview with a witness on this "busy street".

She wasn't reporting a story. She was tweeting about her son. I don't think she has to be objective there.

And who doesn't have an agenda to push?

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Seriously? You're really willing to make that comment? After George just tried to auction off the gun he used to kill Trayvon? Even after he's had multiple run ins with the law due to gun violence since he killed Trayvon? Really? I don't know why I stick my neck out to engage with people like you about topics like this, on a forum like this, but what the hell is wrong with you? You were worried about the authorities…

It's probably because like many "reporters" at Daily Beast, she apparently has an agenda to push. Why not just report the story, complete with facts like where exactly it happened, and maybe at least one interview with a witness on this "busy street".

Her son got unlawfully arrested and threatened with a gun, off course she has a goddamn agenda to push.

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i got arrested, jailed and beaten by police after calling them to help me with a car accident resolution. 4 month and $15000 spent on lawyers later they are still trying to frame me although by now all blood results show that i wasn't under the influence. and the beating, they claim it never happened and are not releasing the surveillance video of the beating. and it happened in my community into which i pay over $100k in taxes, annually. i was treated like an animal, and nobody cares since they don't believe it can happen to them. and i am white, although a european with an accent. the jail i was beaten in had 8 suspicious inmate deaths just last year, only one of them is a confirmed killing by police and 3 guards are being sued. all other deaths are written off, since the killed inmates don't have family and nobody cares to dig.
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