> a pizza bianca without mozzarella is a focaccia It is completely wrong! Pizza and focaccia have a completely different mixture.
The epistemology of pizza
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#22The solution is to allow every agent to either support or disapprove of every semantic statement. This way, the same query will output different realities depending on the agent's opinions, preferences, and network of trust.
Imagine a knowledge base where Jesus statistically both exists and doesn't exists, depending on who wants to know. A knowledge base where some food item is both a pizza and not a pizza. There's no way around it, and this will become the start of a new semantic marketplace.
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#24It is a mistake to seek universality when dealing with semantics and ontologies. The world is perceived and understood differently by every witness. The solution is to allow every agent to either support or disapprove of every semantic statement. This way, the same query will output different realities depending on the agent's opinions, preferences, and network of trust. Imagine a knowledge base where Jesus statistic…
It's hard to do, ontologically, but you can. It tends to make your ontology very complex though, and at the same time incapable (because it's hard to detect contradictions). So you should only do it when you need to.
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#25> a pizza bianca without mozzarella is a focaccia It is completely wrong! Pizza and focaccia have a completely different mixture.
To complicate the matter, if you ever find yourself in the Italian region of Apulia (and possibly other southern regions), you should say "focaccia" even though you really mean "pizza", because "pizza" stands for "penis".
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's about pizza not fruit. This article is light-hearted of course. But there are food ontologies for real -- the BBC have one for organising their recipes. And there is another which is used for food crops, which is used for research into disease (of the crops), and helping to alleviate hunger.
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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#27A pizza is only made in pizzeria, is baked directly into the wood stove, over the marble
A focaccia is only made in panificio, is baked into a baking tray
Btw a focaccia barese is a total specific thing (always with oil, olive, and tomato pieces) it was a shock to know this thing does not exist outiside my city
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#28> a pizza bianca without mozzarella is a focaccia It is completely wrong! Pizza and focaccia have a completely different mixture.
To complicate the matter, if you ever find yourself in the Italian region of Apulia (and possibly other southern regions), you should say "focaccia" even though you really mean "pizza", because "pizza" stands for "penis".
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#29As a barese, I cannot let it go: here in Bari there is a total separation between pizza and focaccia. I know in other parts of Italy the difference is smoothered, but A pizza is only made in pizzeria, is baked directly into the wood stove, over the marble A focaccia is only made in panificio, is baked into a baking tray Btw a focaccia barese is a total specific thing (always with oil, olive, and tomato pieces) it was…
FWIW, "pizza bianca" is also underspecified, as in many parts of center italy, it might refer to pizza baked from bread makers using the same dough ad the bread rather than pizza dough, just flattened.
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#30As a barese, I cannot let it go: here in Bari there is a total separation between pizza and focaccia. I know in other parts of Italy the difference is smoothered, but A pizza is only made in pizzeria, is baked directly into the wood stove, over the marble A focaccia is only made in panificio, is baked into a baking tray Btw a focaccia barese is a total specific thing (always with oil, olive, and tomato pieces) it was…
Carbonara is another highly debated dish - here in Roma (where it is was supposedly born ~50 years ago) some people insist you only need egg, where as others insist you need egg and cheese (and then there is the debate over what cheese). I've heard some restaurants stopped serving the dish to prevent heated arguments with their customers.
Even the word for bags in a supermarket can't be agreed on. Here we use "buste", where as in the north they use "sacchetto". Our word there means envelope, so obviously you will get a funny look if you ask for three envelopes when paying for your groceries (the joke is on us though, we use that word for envelope too :P).
Further reading:
http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/02/origins-history-of-roman-...