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I've always thought it was odd that ignorance of the law is no excuse for civilians breaking it, but is an excuse for police breaking it.
Heien vs. North Carolina
A terrible decision
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I've always thought it was odd that ignorance of the law is no excuse for civilians breaking it, but is an excuse for police breaking it.
Heien vs. North Carolina
A terrible decision
An anecdot: when I lived in Manhattan in 2001, I parked near 61st and 1st, between two differing parking signs. I was clearly very close to one, and much further from another, by at least 50 yards. I got a ticket for illegal parking according to the further sign. Being a broke ex-dot-commer, I was furious, so I photographed and measured everything, and put together a seven page report. After a long while, I got a res…
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And I respectfully disagree with you. Money has been taken from citizens by the authorities in an unlawful manner. Money has to be given back. I don't know what more to say about this matter. If I steal 200$ out of your pocket and you find out, my feeling is you would want your money back, not an apology and my heartfelt assurance that it won't happen again...
Wow I can't believe all the people disagreeing with you. They unlawfully issued tickets, were made aware that they were unlawful, and don't want to refund the money ??? I must be taking crazy pills for people to think this is ok.
The very point of the statute of limitations is to limit how much of the present is spent digging up the past.
An anecdot: when I lived in Manhattan in 2001, I parked near 61st and 1st, between two differing parking signs. I was clearly very close to one, and much further from another, by at least 50 yards. I got a ticket for illegal parking according to the further sign. Being a broke ex-dot-commer, I was furious, so I photographed and measured everything, and put together a seven page report. After a long while, I got a res…
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Wow I can't believe all the people disagreeing with you. They unlawfully issued tickets, were made aware that they were unlawful, and don't want to refund the money ??? I must be taking crazy pills for people to think this is ok.
What's the statute of limitations for such things in NY? The very point of the statute of limitations is to limit how much of the present is spent digging up the past.
The owner must submit a Request for Hearing after Judgment form to fight the ticket. If the request for hearing after judgment is granted, the judge will hear the defense to the parking ticket. If the request is not granted, no hearing will be held and the total fine, interest, and penalties will be due.
[0]: http://www1.nyc.gov/nyc-resources/service/1652/fight-a-parki...
An anecdot: when I lived in Manhattan in 2001, I parked near 61st and 1st, between two differing parking signs. I was clearly very close to one, and much further from another, by at least 50 yards. I got a ticket for illegal parking according to the further sign. Being a broke ex-dot-commer, I was furious, so I photographed and measured everything, and put together a seven page report. After a long while, I got a res…
i wanted to fight to the end because it was a sign for me that they half-admitted wrong-doing.
but, as a sheep, i ended up paying. still hate myself for giving in.
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> its not like the tickets were written in bad faith. There's been a huge proliferation of laws in the last ~20 years or so which are categorized as Strict Liability. Taxes have always been like this, but lately a lot of new laws have said "follow this or else" full stop. Since normal everyday citizens are being held to strict liability every day, I see no reason to be so forgiving of officers. I'm not suggesting tha…
Can't up vote this enough."Ignorance of the law is not an excuse" is played out on the citizens of NYC (and elsewhere) on the daily. Don't let authority off so easy. Hold those that would hold you liable, liable.
Supreme Court says otherwise, if you're a cop.
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Eh. Cities issue parking violations all the time when they shouldn't (partially because the rules can be confusing). And, at the same time, many, many people get off with parking violations because they weren't caught. It's hard for me to get excited about a specific group of non-violations because they happened to occur in high incidence spots as uncovered by an examination of public data. I'm not opposed to the cit…
So, it's OK to punish innocent people because guilty people go free? That's your argument?
An anecdot: when I lived in Manhattan in 2001, I parked near 61st and 1st, between two differing parking signs. I was clearly very close to one, and much further from another, by at least 50 yards. I got a ticket for illegal parking according to the further sign. Being a broke ex-dot-commer, I was furious, so I photographed and measured everything, and put together a seven page report. After a long while, I got a res…