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Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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SMAC also had 10/10 flavor text and setting overall. It's a game that has a lot of character.

Any of you fellow SMAC fans play Beyond Earth? Is it a spiritual successor?

Sadly, no. BE is a dressed up Civ5.

Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SMAC also had 10/10 flavor text and setting overall. It's a game that has a lot of character.

Any of you fellow SMAC fans play Beyond Earth? Is it a spiritual successor?

unfortunately would have to say no. bells and whistles and alien fungi but missing the spirit. Stellaris however is AMAZING.. its got the feel of original Master of Orion and old time Civs.

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I would love to see a game that accurately reflects modern geopolitics. It would generate a world and run a history up to a certain point, at which you'd take control as head of state of a particular nation and conduct national affairs. Ideally, the game would be able to make conducting the affairs of a large global hegemon like the United States as interesting as playing a small kingdom beset on all sides. Sort of l…

I remember playing a very old game called 'Shadow President' that I thought was particularly fun. I'm an Aussie and Australia in the game always frustrated the heck out of me. I often nuked it. :-/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_President

i remember the sequel "Cyberjudas", fun but frustrating too. was excessively impressed with how the game used CIA world factbook info.. "whoa, this is like so real dude!"

Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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post #79

Hopefully they can add some AI that is not totally lame.

Agreed. I was kind of disappointed in the "AI" in Civ V. The first time I played and an country denounced me I obliterated them off the map and thought to myself, no one else will be foolish enough to denounce me now. Wrong, if you take over nation completely then everyone starts to denounce you, that is the way the "AI" is programed to think.

Right, you are now an expansionist violator of the social order, and they're all going to gang up on you to stop you from doing it again.

Re: Civilization 6 is coming in October, with big changes

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I would love to see a game that accurately reflects modern geopolitics. It would generate a world and run a history up to a certain point, at which you'd take control as head of state of a particular nation and conduct national affairs. Ideally, the game would be able to make conducting the affairs of a large global hegemon like the United States as interesting as playing a small kingdom beset on all sides. Sort of l…

I, too, like to play Civ this way. For my money, Civ4 (and its various mods) comes the closest to allowing this style of play. The game itself is highly moddable, and provided you play with the right set of AI personalities, you can actually conduct geopolitics without reverting to the simplistic "Blow them up before they blow you up" imperative every few turns.

But make no mistake: this is not how the game is designed. The game is designed around conquest, by one means or another. Sooner or later, the game 'wants' you to go to war. Everything pushes towards war. There's a lot of fun, in fact, in trying to be a stabilizing force in a world hell-bent on going Mad Max. But it will go there, sooner or later.

Every faction ends up going to war with the others, and you'll find yourself taking various sides in an attempt to shore up the defenses of the helpless, the aggrieved, and the outmatched. Since the roles of aggressor and aggrieved change every few cycles, you'll pretty much go to war with every other nation in a grim rotation of shifting alliances. Eventually you're rewarded for your peacekeeping efforts with the seething and irreparable enmity of every other faction on the map.

At that point, you've got two choices: 1) Cheat and reset relations with the other factions; 2) Accept your new role as World Police, bringing democracy and prosperity at gunpoint.

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> Russia seemed to do OK with the conquest of Crimea While I'm no Putin apologist, Russian "conquest" of Crimea is a bit like hypothetical Éire conquest of Northern Ireland. You're certainly going to upset a lot of people, but it's also hardly black and white.

> it's also hardly black and white No, I think it's clear. The Russians invaded another country, conquered Ukranian land and kidnapped Ukrainian people. EDIT: Fixed the ambiguous pronouns

    > Their military invaded
"Their" being Russian here...

    > conquered their land and kidnapped their people
By 'their', you mean the people of Crimea, of which over 50% identify as Russians?

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And I'm still sitting here and waiting for Age of Empires 4 :/

You and me, friend. Whatever happened to the MS division that published those games?

Well, the original division was shuttered. But Microsoft "remastered" AoE2 and sold 3 million (!!) copies. It's their most popular game on Steam. http://steamspy.com/dev/Microsoft+Studios

Unfortunately, they're driving the franchise into the ground with bugs and no support. :( If anyone at Microsoft reads this... help us!

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post #11
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I'm a bit surprised at the graphics they have shown so far. I originally saw a screenshot and assumed it was a mobile game rather than a full-fledged AAA title for the PC.

Ditto. The cartoony feel doesn't really fit what I would expect from a CIV title, hopefully that will change. The gameplay changes themselves seem very promising, though

99% of my time in Civ 5 is spent in strategic view. Keep that mode and fix that I can't tell if a tile has a coast line and you can base the graphics on the My Little Pony for all I care.
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