Tesla will not be able to scale its manufacturing capacity

Post by pbreit » Sun, May 08, 2016, 2:14 AM UTC

apalmer wrote: post #106

pbreit wrote: post #72

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What are =you= talking about? Tesla's manufacturing capabilities are far more modern and informed by Silicon Valley. Electronic cars (outside the Model X) have far fewer parts and are substantially less complex than combustion engine. Tesla has =far= better software development capabilities which is becoming much more important. Tesla has a much simpler distribution network and much closer contact with users. etc, et…

Tesla has one facility, which is definitely state of the art, and has some of the largest automobile manufacturing robots in the world... on the other hand toyota has about 40-70 plants of varying level of technological advancement... its quite a range because some are only operated by toyota not owned... there more recently opened factories such is the one in Mississippi are pretty much universally accepted amongst…

Post by dragontamer » Sun, May 08, 2016, 5:02 AM UTC

pbreit wrote: post #122

dragontamer wrote: post #113

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Yes. Lets compare Tesla with the worst cars on the market in terms of reliability. And then demonstrate that other cars can have problems too. Or you know, as a smart consumer, I'll be looking at a workhorse car like a Honda Accord, Ford Focus, Toyota Camry, etc. etc. and not have to worry about reliability issues. Or if I'm actually going to buy on Luxury + reliability: the highly reliable Lexus ES looks like a good…

I'd say the German luxury brands are the most appropriate comparisons.

Post by lazylizard » Sun, May 08, 2016, 6:32 AM UTC

Post by [deleted] » Sun, May 08, 2016, 9:22 AM UTC

cletus wrote: post #76

marvin wrote: post #49

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There's no reason to pull out the True Believer ad hominem. You have valid points, but it also wouldn't be the first time that a long list of drawbacks with new technology are resolved one by one until it becomes obvious to everyone that the new way of doing things is better. I think that battery-electric vehicles are in this category, and that it will be tough for competitors to catch up once the "this is obviously…

100k/year compared to 17m cars and light trucks sold in the US in 2015 is a drop in the ocean. This seems to be another example, particularly on this forum, of "living in the bubble". The bubble in this case is urban living in California, a situation with relatively low ranges of driving with temperate weather. Again, I'm not saying it won't happen. I'm simply pointing out the obvious: it's got incredibly far to go a…

Post by Gracana » Sun, May 08, 2016, 4:22 PM UTC

stupidcar wrote: post #59

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Those statements are all still largely true, they haven't been "cycled through." There are a lot of good things happening in the world of electric cars, but right now, for most people, they're too expensive and they require sacrifices in utility and convenience that aren't seen in ICE vehicles.

The Model X has 250 mile range. But you think it's "largely true" that electric cars have a range problem? There are ~600 charging stations worldwide, and that's increasing to 1200 during 2016. But you think it's "largely true" that there's no charging infrastructure?