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Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

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Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#31
I personally can't see why any article should be deleted unless it's obviously erroneous, its not like they're short of disk space. Obscure articles will likely remain as such, due to lack of references to them; deletion seems rather draconian.

As an aside I wonder if Wikipedia will ever be forked due to this apparent increasing bureaucracy.

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#32
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're the only one that, however obliquely, answered my question ("Where would you draw the line?") so maybe you can explain to everyone else why you feel plot summaries from TV shows are not worthy, when the popular opinion seems to be that there is no reason to delete anything from Wikipedia.

I dare say he was being sarcastic. While there is perhaps some minimal bar on notability, it seems that it has to be a very low bar on a site that, as noted, has entries for things like episodes of TV shows or obscure cartoon characters.

Which is just as well (I hope you agree) - if people care enough about those cartoon characters, however obscure, let them have a wikipedia entry.

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#34

Wikipedia should disable "non-notable" article deletion for a year and see what happens. The rampant deletionist problem really hurts editor morale. People spend hours working on articles only to have them deleted, often for arbitrary reasons. For a site that lives and dies by its ability to attract new volunteers, they sure do their best to scare people off.

It seems to me that deleting an article should require nearly 100% "delete" votes, for if even a small group of people wish to keep it, it is obviously useful to them, and it gets in no one's way.

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#36

The pro-deletion side come across as dicks, but I think they're right. Does every piece of software ever written need a Wikipedia page? If you don't like where they're drawing the line, where would you draw it?

Meta note: This comment in my opinion asks a good question and furthers the discussion, as is evidenced by the many replies. I don't agree with it, you may not either, but that's not a good reason, in my opinion, to downvote it.

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#37
post #25

I'm sure these policies are designed to keep up quality. Deletion is a great incentive for improving articles. Perhaps the best thing to do in this case is to fix the article at the moment there is little content. If you care, fix it :-).

It's not being deleted due to lack of content. The main argument for deletion seems to be the lack of external non-primary sources.

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#38
post #25

I'm sure these policies are designed to keep up quality. Deletion is a great incentive for improving articles. Perhaps the best thing to do in this case is to fix the article at the moment there is little content. If you care, fix it :-).

Deletion isn't about improving articles. It is about removing them. If an article covers an obscure topic or person, what of it, so long as the article is properly referenced? There are many topics out there that are definitely arcane and of little interest to most people. Does this mean that Wikipedia ought to be a knowledge base for nothing but pop culture? I sure hope not.

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#39

The pro-deletion side come across as dicks, but I think they're right. Does every piece of software ever written need a Wikipedia page? If you don't like where they're drawing the line, where would you draw it?

Almost every porn star has one. Why not software?

Re: Father of the moderm tiling WMs proposed for deletion in Wikipedia.

#40
post #19
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, are there any Wikipedia forks? *BSD guys had a lot of similar arguments and they ended up with many flavors of BSD (OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, DragonFlyBSD etc.)

Some spammers mirror it.. But that's about it. If you can work out a good way to share most edits between the forks --- because most edits won't be a source of argument --- then you have a fighting chance.

It could be as simple as mirroring wikipedia but never propagating the deletions. Trying to edit an article would redirect one to wikipedia; trying to edit a deleted article would instead edit the local copy (in the event of the article being recreated on wikipedia at a later date there could be an automatic upstream merge).
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