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> It's a lottery, the most stupid way to pick who gets to enter you country. Instead of a random lottery, rank the applications by salary (decreasing order) and take the top N. Everyone wins: company has to pay more, it ensures that the visas go to really hard-to-fill jobs, and workers get more.
No, big Silicon valley tech companies win.
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> It's a lottery, the most stupid way to pick who gets to enter you country. Instead of a random lottery, rank the applications by salary (decreasing order) and take the top N. Everyone wins: company has to pay more, it ensures that the visas go to really hard-to-fill jobs, and workers get more.
Someone in texas would definitely lose out because their salary will be much much lower than the bay area. This doesn't factor in cost of living.
The more "factors" you throw into the equation, the more people will find ways to game the system.
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I think given Tata, Infosys, Disney and Edison electric's behaviour is plenty of reason for people to be critical of how we have setup H-1B. Illegal immigration is illegal so that is a purely indefensible position to have to be in support of illegal immigration. We have democracy and laws such as H-1B which allow us to bring people into the country on our terms (laws which require scrutiny from time to time). Any mig…
I didn't expect anyone to be in favour of illegal immigration - what I'm asking about are efforts to curtail illegal immigration and deport existing illegal immigrants? To the extends that laws around H1Bs aren't working, surely the laws around illegal immigration are working even poorer? The population of illegal immigrants is many time higher than the population of H1Bs.
No I don't advocate anarchy, I advocate we enforce our border as any state does, in fact its one of the few things I actually think the state is suppose to do. If we cut out just a small fraction of all the stuff the state does which I do not think it is suppose to do this job would be done, and done well and would allow only higher quality individuals into our cities and communities (e.g. not drug dealers and criminals).
>The population of illegal immigrants is many time higher than the population of H1Bs.
Why does this quantity matter in the context of H1Bs, you are confusing two different issues. In one case the law is not enforced, that clearly just needs to be dealt with. H1Bs on the other hand is a legal system which requires refinement at the legislative level, or litigation.
It seems that opposition to H-1Bs is pretty widespread here. Do most people of this position also support deportation of illegal immigrants, and efforts to curtail illegal immigration? If not, why not? Genuinely interested in learning how those positions are compatible.
The other involves illegal border crossings by individuals from a neighboring country or visa-overstaying mostly from South America.
I've personally witnessed a kind of overlap of these problems that went way beyond H1-B fraud and went way into human trafficking and organized crime. In that case a high-tech company was being used as a front for illegal immigration from an Asian country, with no-show workers and other amazing stunts more typical of a corrupt government or union operation. But that was an exceptional case.
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But why just google the name of the office and find the correct link when I can throw my hands up and say "fuck this" on a pseudo-anonymous internet forum?
Maybe you missed the part where they cared so little about what they were supposed to be enforcing that the link on a federal website dedicated to enforcement was a dead link. That you can use a third-party search engine to find the site is entirely beside the point that you shouldn't have to.
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Thanks for listing it out. It's a shame that people in this dilemma tend towards hyperbole, even going to the extent of calling it slavery. There are hurdles no doubt, but life is unfair. Deal with it.
"Deal with it" is perhaps the worst possible thing to say in any situation.
We have a difference of opinion. I'd rather be told the truth than have someone showing sympathy which is of no use whatsoever.
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They do have a prevailing wage clause but if you look up labor filings by most tech companies the wages are on average MUCH lower than what Americans would expect. I just saw a software developer petition for a company in San Francisco for 79K.
Though it does not take RSUs into account, and in the SF/SV a huge chunk of the compensation tend to come in the form of RSUs.
The obvious problem here is that the real beneficiaries of H1B abuse are companies our parents have heard of, but the named violators are the 1099 body shops they source from, who nobody has heard of.
I was always thinking about how bodyshops benefits from Microsoft/Google/etc. lobbying in favor of H1b.
But you are right - bodyshops return the favor back to these tech giants by placing these contractors there.
I see one from my home state of Iowa. Worldwide Software Services, Inc. As a proud native-born, raised and college educated Iowan that had to leave to Chicago and Austin to find work, I will taking extra time to harass and shame them. Companies like this are part of the reason why we can't find jobs and have to migrate like cattle for them. A good example where mob rule will be a good thing. I have my pitchfork ready…
Why can't you live off of the same salary as the 'cheap' workers? Sounds to me that you think you are entitled to something...