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For anyone looking for the correct link, here it is : https://www.justice.gov/crt/office-special-counsel-immigrati...

But why just google the name of the office and find the correct link when I can throw my hands up and say "fuck this" on a pseudo-anonymous internet forum?

Maybe you missed the part where they cared so little about what they were supposed to be enforcing that the link on a federal website dedicated to enforcement was a dead link. That you can use a third-party search engine to find the site is entirely beside the point that you shouldn't have to.

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There's a trivial fix to the whole system: free the employees. As long as employees are completely tied to their employer wages will be lower. What else do you expect? Forcing employers to pay a higher salary is a half-measure. I imagine they'd still prefer H1B's over locals for one simple reasons: you hire a H1B employee and they're gonna stick around for a few years. Even if the job sucks. It's worth to pay a bit m…

> you hire a H1B employee and they're gonna stick around for a few years. Even if the job sucks. Can you elaborate a bit more on this? H1b's are free to change jobs. There is nothing that prevents them from doing so.

People exaggerate this in both directions. Some people do say, inaccurately, that H1B holders are unable to change jobs. Others say that nothing prevents them from doing so. Both are inaccurate, though the also both contain some truth.

H1B holders have some limited job mobility. They typically must find a new corporate sponsor, and if they are also being sponsored for a green card, they will typically need to ensure that the new employer will also assume sponsorship. If they are hoping to get that green card, they would be wise to stick with stable employers. Although it used to be the case that an H1B holder would restart the waiting process with a new green card sponsor, that is no longer the case, so at least that is a mild improvement.

The types of jobs an H1B can move to are also restricted. They can pretty much be an engineer/developer here, there, or even over there, but that's about it. Changing fields, dropping out to be a consultant, starting your own business (whether it's a tech company or a sandwich shop) is pretty much out of the question.

The mobility that does exist helps, but overall, I think the restrictions are severe enough that H1Bs really can't be considered free and full participants in a labor market.

The more cynical side of me sees this as entirely deliberate. A RAND study found that the American aversion to STEM graduate degrees is rational and market-driven. I feel that while dev jobs are ok, there's a lot to dislike about them - open offices, back visibility, scrum meetings that limit autonomy and are misused to apply deadline pressure, often soulless and unfulfilling work. I do think that people who are capable of becoming developers are also capable of finding work they prefer outside the field - provided they are free to do so.

Part of the appeal of the H1B is that it creates a population of workers who are, well, not free to do so. Corporations talk about things like "at will employment", but they'll absolutely lobby government to undermine freedom if freedom doesn't suit them.

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I've often wondered - I know there are requirements for them to "post" those openings before they get the visa - if there is a way for "concerned citizens" to challenge them through the department of labor or something... we could make a website that would let professional engineers volunteer their spare time go down the list of WiPro's (or whatever the big offender companies are) visa requests and call BS on them.

That wouldn't work. I'm sure these companies would be more than happy to hire an American who responds to their job request if that American was willing to work for 50k.

Are there not regions of the US where a $50k tech job for, say, a 30 year old programmer is a good salary?

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I see one from my home state of Iowa. Worldwide Software Services, Inc. As a proud native-born, raised and college educated Iowan that had to leave to Chicago and Austin to find work, I will taking extra time to harass and shame them. Companies like this are part of the reason why we can't find jobs and have to migrate like cattle for them. A good example where mob rule will be a good thing. I have my pitchfork ready…

Why can't you live off of the same salary as the 'cheap' workers? Sounds to me that you think you are entitled to something...

Re: H-1B Willful Violator List of Employers

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post #98

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The quota is set by Congress. It was 65K for many years, but I hear during the bubble it was temporarily increased.

Sounds like a 'magic number' to me. What's it based on?

It's Congress's work, so it's likely a compromise between parties.

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I worked in a US Embassy consular section as a summer hire working with H1B visas. Part of my job was to check that the companies were real. I was amazed how many were fraudulent, even companies where we already had the DHS paperwork to issue the visa. When I say fraudulent, I mean the addresses and phone numbers for the company simply did not belong to any company. They were incredibly transparent fronts for illegal immigration.

Re: H-1B Willful Violator List of Employers

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It seems that opposition to H-1Bs is pretty widespread here. Do most people of this position also support deportation of illegal immigrants, and efforts to curtail illegal immigration? If not, why not? Genuinely interested in learning how those positions are compatible.

Re: H-1B Willful Violator List of Employers

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A lot of consultancy firms abuse this system, BUT: not all H1Bs are "cheap labor". If you are not American and want to work in a tech company in the US, you don't have much choice: 99% of the time, you have to get an H-1B. I once got a position in a very interesting startup in Palo Alto (with a salary significantly above average in the region), and the company was thrilled to have me join them (because there really i…

Tens of thousands of foreign students come to US every year for education, majority of them are among the top of talent pool. They have to be top performers in their country to be able to get university admission and visa to come to US.

After they graduate, if they want to stay and work in US; their only option is H-1B. Even they are subjected to the stupid lottery system.

Re: H-1B Willful Violator List of Employers

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A lot of consultancy firms abuse this system, BUT: not all H1Bs are "cheap labor". If you are not American and want to work in a tech company in the US, you don't have much choice: 99% of the time, you have to get an H-1B. I once got a position in a very interesting startup in Palo Alto (with a salary significantly above average in the region), and the company was thrilled to have me join them (because there really i…

>It baffles me that some people believe most non-American employees are just "cheap labor". It is not a "belief" because they are cheaper. Everytime this topic comes up, a bunch of Ph.D's are shocked, SHOCKED! to learn that there are companies abusing the system and to learn that Infosys, Wipro and Tata are the leading H1-B Sponsors with an average salary of ~$73,000 http://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2015-H1B-Visa-Sp…

Even $73,000 is high end if you include all outsourcing firms. Here's some writeup I did which compared silicon valley tech firms v/s outsourcing firms: http://ashwinikhare.in/tech-firms-guest-visa/
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