Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by aechsten » Thu, May 05, 2016, 10:53 PM UTC

Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery
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Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by usloth » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:27 PM UTC

If Agile is dead, why is there a new article about Agile on HN everyday. I think Agile is dying, not dead.

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by ktRolster » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:27 PM UTC

Has anyone ever worked on an 'agile' team that wasn't based around scrum or XP? I'd be interested in hearing your experiences.

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by striking » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:29 PM UTC

usloth wrote: post #2

If Agile is dead, why is there a new article about Agile on HN everyday. I think Agile is dying, not dead.

In that case, Agile has been dying for a long time now.

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by ludamad » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:32 PM UTC

usloth wrote: post #2

If Agile is dead, why is there a new article about Agile on HN everyday. I think Agile is dying, not dead.

This article seems to just be stating that the term is misused now. It's not dying/dead so much as becoming a less than useful term

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by jheriko » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:34 PM UTC

buzzword filled click-bait. :/

just use your brain. agile is only a problem when people follow it religiously instead of intelligently imo.

its just one tool in the box, not the ultimate methodology.

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:39 PM UTC

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Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by goalieca » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:39 PM UTC

usloth wrote: post #2

If Agile is dead, why is there a new article about Agile on HN everyday. I think Agile is dying, not dead.

Because we all wish agile was dying?

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by xirdstl » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:41 PM UTC

Out with the old buzzwords, in with the new.

Re: Agile Is Dead, Long Live Continuous Delivery

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Post by stcredzero » Thu, May 05, 2016, 11:44 PM UTC

usloth wrote: post #2

If Agile is dead, why is there a new article about Agile on HN everyday. I think Agile is dying, not dead.

A better analogy, is that some of the more advanced examples have "sublimed" as in Iain M. Bank's "Culture" series.

I was just having this thought last night. "eXtreme Programming" and Scrum seem to either exist in a clunky bureaucratic mutant form or have evolved into companies that use CI and prioritize really good communication. (Yes, people in the late 90's and early 00's did sometimes write it like that.)