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Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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Thought experiment: Suppose Satoshi, whoever it is, is still alive somewhere in the wild. But he doesn't have his original keys (hard-drive failure with no backup, apartment fire with no offsite backup, etc etc). How would Satoshi prove himself then?

I believe that David Kleiman was the one with the Satoshi keys, they were kept on an encrypted USB. He died unexpectedly in 2013, and his brother took the USB. Nobody knows how to unlock it.

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The top ten results of "bitcoin purpose" on Google concur that in it's current implementation, in how the community and business world view and use it, Bitcoin is meant to be an electronic currency. The FTC recognizes it as a commodity, something that can be bought and sold. In it's current incarnation, it is the equivalent of bartering with baseball cards in lieu of cash. If your point is true, then the purpose has…

>The FTC recognizes it as a commodity, something that can be bought and sold. In it's current incarnation, it is the equivalent of bartering with baseball cards in lieu of cash. The US government has a stake in the failure of non-state-controlled currencies, though, so this isn't really evidence of anything.

It's evidence that it is popularly interpreted as something that has value and can be traded. So is money. I really can't care any less than I already don't if Bitcoin is or isn't a legal currency.

The point is it isn't commonly purported to be a 'settlement layer' but something else entirely.

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Don't speak for most people. Most people know nothing about Bitcoin just yet. Can you be more specific about where the financial experiment of Bitcoin has gone wrong and why?

It's quite telling that you don't want me to speak for other people but just in your answer before projected your irrational feelings about bitcoin on me and on what I feel or don't feel for bitcoin (so that we get straight, I don't "feel" anything for a technology, that doesn't make sense). When I referred the world at large, I referred the world at large that already knows bitcoin, not the world population. And fro…

you're dum, lady

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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My (non-provable) theory is that Satoshi is not a person but a team, now defunct, that was tasked with developing a crypto-currency. They are probably more scientists/mathematicians/economists than they are software developers, which would explain the very sound but not exactly elegant initial code. It would also explain the silence - the project is over, the team is probably bound to secrecy because this stuff is cl…

The NSA/Mossad. Got it.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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He already made it out of Australia and is "hiding" in the UK.

I'd read of that elsewhere but wasn't sure. Here's to hoping both countries have adequate agreements to facilitate shipping him back home to face the music.

The UK does have a history of shipping criminals off to Australia...

In all seriousness though, I hope he does get sent back to Australia. Everything he's done fits with someone who is grasping at anything that might get him out of has last con, and unfortunately for him, his last con involved a government organization that will want its money back.

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Steve Jobs in his relationships with friends and family, and his own self-destructive (ultimately fatally destructive) streak screams full blown sociopath and always has. Then again, he might just have been a really shitty person without a personality disorder to explain it.

Am I understanding correctly that you are blaming an undiagnosed sociopathy for Jobs' death by pancreatic cancer induced respratory arrest?

He decided not to undergo actual clinical treatment for his cancer until it was too late, instead relying on new-age stuff to heal himself for the longest time.

I wouldn't go so far as to call this behavior "full blown sociopath" but it definitely shortened his life. I don't know what the stats are for refusing cancer treatment, but I think they're fairly low.

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I'm in the Wright is a liar/con-artist camp but the items on that list apply to most "normal" people (including myself).

Any psychologist will tell you that most people can't objectively evaluate such criteria for themselves. This is something that is best left to professionals who have experience with people that DEFINITELY have such disorders. I'm also in the non-believer camp, nor can I fathom why "Satoshi" would initially choose to remain anonymous but then decide to come out. What purpose does that serve? Whatever the case, all of…

This is very true. I have an armchair level interest in psychiatry and psychology. I spoke to someone who deals with real criminals all day.

They said that in their 30 year career counselling criminals and assessing them, they only met one true sociopath. The kid came from a family with $100M+ and was about 20.

They said that this person could convince you of anything to the extent that everyone who had exposure to them had to do so in small chunks so as to not empathize.

This person could cut to the heart of someone's identity very quickly and learn how to manipulate and engineer your response.

Apparently it is one of those things where you are like "Maybe I am on this spectrum..." but if you were, you would either know for sure, or be pathologically immune to the critism. And if you met someone who truly was on it, they would be capable of things beyond most normal people's imaginations.

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You want the Hare PCL-R for psychopathy/sociopathy: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Psychopathy_Check... Interesting that it has now been deleted from wikipedia... This is also good: http://www.wikihow.com/Spot-a-Sociopath

it was removed for copyright purposes

Who would request that?!? Oh, right.

Re: Bitcoin 'creator' backs out of Satoshi coin move 'proof'

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The most damning: Seven transaction a second. You cannot have a functioning financial system that is constrained to seven transactions per second.

I think you misunderstand the purpose of Bitcoin. It's not meant to be a payment system, but rather a settlement layer.

>It's not meant to be a payment system

That's why it makes the front page of HackerNews when some random company starts accepting Bitcoin payments?

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