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Apple Stole My Music

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Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by teach »

wstrange wrote: post #359
speeder wrote: post #265

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I make Android and iOS apps. But only because people want me to and pay for it... I wouldn't inflict the trauma that is using these on anyone. I had problems with every single Android I owned, here is the current one: 1. Super slow, even after reformatting everything and reinstalling, it is not even a cheap phone. 2. Terrible interfaces overall, specially as they keep removing physical buttons, and apps started to sh…

The Android ecosystem us chock full of phones at various price points and quality levels, and questionable "value add" software added by OEMS and carriers. I have been very happy with Nexus phones (going back to Nexus S), and have never experienced any of those issues. We also have 3 Motorola G phones - which for the money (<200) are really hard to beat. Motorola seems to have not attempted to mess with the stock O/S…

I love my Nexus 5. Add an SD card slot and a fingerprint reader and it'd be the perfect phone, IMO.

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Post by clapinton »

taurath wrote: post #373
xigency wrote: post #353

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You're lucky El Capitan works for you. Usually with iPhone/iPod Video upgrades, getting the latest version of iOS with an older device can significantly degrade performance. (And I'm sure it's the same with iPads.) At least on a Macbook you can reinstall the operating system, but an iPhone 4 is stuck like that.

My HTC One has gotten dreadfully slower since release from Android releases. I don't think it's exclusive to iPhones - in fact I think android phones are more prone to it.

I guess I'm also lucky to have the latest 6.0.1 on my Nexus 5 running smoothly. Yes, it did get a bit slower after some updates, enough for me to notice it, but considering it shipped with 4.4, I'm still pretty happy with it.

But you're right: it's definitely not exclusive to iPhones. Planned obsolescence, some would argue.

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Post by DanBC »

coldtea wrote: post #44
DanBC wrote: post #12

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Apple are re-distributing. And they're doing as part of business, which usually tips it from civil[1] to criminal[2]. [1] I think the US term is "a tort"? [2] Fines and prison time, not damages.

> Apple are re-distributing. Only to the user they got the audio themselves. Any proof they're redistributing random X users not tagged in their collection files to others? In any case, the whole "piracy" angle is BS (not to mention it lacks intent and profit from explicit piracy). What's at stake is plain bad program behavior -- deleting users files without explicit confirmation, making bad matches to different vers…

> Only to the user they got the audio themselves.

How do you know?

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by grmarcil »

Hydraulix989 wrote: post #378
clapinton wrote: post #285

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Remember the U2 fiasco, when Apple decided to break into your computer and push their new album through iTunes? It seems like whenever Apple decides to take control of your files, shit happens. Back in the day, I tried to use iTunes for a while when I bought my iPod. One of the first things that it asked me was to take control of my music, as it would reorganize it by itself. I agreed, but tested it first with a smal…

I've survived for 20 years now with zero backups (across at least 10 mechanical hard drives, some of them Seagate) and have never lost data.

“There are old pilots, and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots.”

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Post by ansible »

zeveb wrote: post #238
leephillips wrote: post #219

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Yes, it's MTP with my current phone and linux installation. Is there a problem with this? After I figured out where the filesystem was mounted (a bit of a pain), I could use it like a normal mount, as if it were an external USB drive.

> Yes, it's MTP with my current phone and linux installation. Is there a problem with this? For the longest time MTP & Linux was terribly painful, verging on unusable, while mass storage worked perfectly. It bit when I upgraded my Nexus phone and discovered I couldn't get to the files stored on it. Fortunately, all seems to work well now.

The reason for implementing MTP instead of mass storage was clear, because you couldn't / wouldn't be able to access the files from the phone while the computer was accessing them. So I understand why they went in that direction.

But oh my goodness! MTP support on Linux was terrible for a while, and even on Windows it wasn't fast and reliable. It was easier at the time to just use a service like Dropbox to transfer files to/from the phone, than to use USB.

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Post by dmitrygr »

buro9 wrote: post #24

It's worth noting that Google Photos actually does something similar... the photos are "backed up" even in their "original" form... but I don't believe it's possible to actually restore (download all) from Google Photos. I thankfully have a local backup of the photos I took, but when a phrase like "backup" is used, it is implicit and understood that there is a "restore" mechanism. Google Photos lacks a "restore" mech…

False.

.

https://photos.google.com

Select all (click first, hold shift, click last)

Click download icon on top

Enjoy zip archive of all photos

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Post by Animats »

It might be worth filing a criminal complaint with the FBI, under the "exceeds authorized access" provision of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.[1] Apple's EULA [2] does not give them unlimited access to your computer. It just keeps you from suing them in civil court over it. You probably need a lawyer and a press agent. Someone really needs to take this to court.

See the Justice Department's CFAA guide [2], under "Intentionally Damaging by Knowing Transmission". Also read the section on "Exceeds authorized access", starting at page 11.

This guy was told that the software was operating as intended. That shows criminal intent. It eliminates the defense in the CFAA under "No action may be brought under this subsection for the negligent design or manufacture of computer hardware, computer software, or firmware." The CFAA has a civil suit provision: "Any person who suffers damage or loss by reason of a violation of this section may maintain a civil action against the violator to obtain compensatory damages and injunctive relief or other equitable relief." That may override the EULA, but this needs legal advice.

[1] https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal-ccips/l... [2] http://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/appstore...

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Post by __david__ »

IBM wrote: post #277
simonster wrote: post #163

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But other people have posted here and said they enabled Apple Music and their music was not deleted, so clearly this doesn't happen under all circumstances, and this wouldn't be the first time a technical support representative was wrong. This is a pretty extraordinary claim and I'm not really willing to believe everyone loses all their local music when they turn on Apple Music without more data to confirm.

Apple Music doesn't delete the original files. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204962 >When Apple Music adds these matched songs to your iCloud Music Library, Apple Music doesn’t change or alter your original music files that reside in iTunes for Mac or PC or on your iOS devices from which they were added.

That sentence is from the iTunes Music Match section, not the Apple Music section. They are different.

Re: Apple Stole My Music

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Post by passivepinetree »

konart wrote: post #318
passivepinetree wrote: post #302

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As someone who can't bear to let go of his 160gb iPod classic (but still hates iTunes with a burning passion), is there an alternative like Swinsian that will still sync my iPod? I've been handcuffed to iTunes for years because of the iPod syncing mechanism but I'd love to switch.

Never owned one, so I'll have to look for a solution when I'm home (I remember Foobar2k had a pluging for this, but F2k is win-only). After I've switched to Apple and used Apple music for a couple of months I just bougth Fiio X3 II. Great thing for a good price.

I've actually toyed with the idea of getting one of these. Can you tell me a little more about it? IIRC the main thing holding me back was cost (~$200 for the player and ~$50 each for two 128gb MicroSD cards), but at some point in the relatively near future I'm going to outgrow the 160gb limit on the iPod classic and I may as well bite the bullet and shell out the ~$300.
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