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Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Maybe it's just all the Prince nostalgia speaking, but ever since watching the classic 1989 version of Batman, I've wondered how long you'd really be safe inside of a car during a terrorist chemical weapon attack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hn-CTSKmeo Thankyou Tesla for delivering a car that the 1989 version of me would have been pretty keen on acquiring!

Speaking of that scene. I've always been skeptical that a jet could drag big balloons away like that. Seems like a lot of weight/drag to load on on the front tip of the plane.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> precious resources and taxpapyer money I guess you mean the cost to the environment to manufacture large HEPA filters and the government subsidies to Tesla. In my mind the environmental cost of adding the feature is trivial compared to adding a gimmick to get rich people who like gadgets to purchase electric cars so that we can: 1. Use the high-end of the market to fuel the production of cheaper electric cars on th…

If the Tesla is for rich people I find it immoral to provide subsidies to it under any pretext. Helping conventional cars be more environment friendly might help poor people more.

Affordable electric cars are the end goal. The government is making an investment to get a beneficial market started. In the long run, this investment will likely have done considerably more good than if that money had been spent to increase direct aid to the poor.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Brilliant marketing: 1. get people worried about something they previously didn't care about; 2. as a solution, add a new part to the car that will need frequent replacement and maintenance, thereby increasing the CLV.

I can't wait for the model 3. it will have a bear attack prevention rock as standard equipment!

At least that would be more practical!

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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If you've ever wanted to travel in Indonesia/Singapore/China locations during the multi-month Haze/particulate issues, you would understand how this is a pretty invaluable technology. I don't really have any lung issues (that I know of) - but if I forget to bring a mask, and walk for any distance, I start coughing and gagging after a while to clear my lungs. It gets so bad, that at times people are not only told to s…

Is Tesla making cars for Indonesia, Singapore or China currently? Surely there are problem all over the planet but I don't see why American government must subsidize solving those problems.

GM, Ford, and Chrysler receive billions in subsidies. During the 2008 Auto crisis the US gave those three $70 billion to keep them afloat. The US subsidizes its car companies. It also spends tens of billions subsidizing Boeing, Intel, Lockheed-Martin, IBM, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, and various airlines. Telsa, like many other companies, also receives subsidies. So what? There's nothing special going on here.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Bioweapon Defense Mode is not a marketing statement, it is real. Their filter does a good job cleaning particles out of the cabin air. Good on them. Nevertheless, calling it "Bioweapon Defense Mode" is clearly a prize bit of marketing. A system designed to protect against an external bioagent wouldn't run huge amounts of outside air through the filter. That would just load the filter more quickly, impacting its perfo…

I disagree, and I can tell you from first hand experience that this is how a tank NBC protection system works - The crew cabin is pressurized with high flow of filtered air. http://elbitsystems.com/Elbitmain/files/Kinetics_NBC-CBRN.pd... [Edit - adding this] I can also say, that this creates a very uncomfortable sensation in your ears while the cabin is being over-pressurized (about 2 minutes)

Yes but it's the positive pressure that's important, not the high flow rate. You may need a high flow rate to maintain whatever pressure you're aiming for but the thing that's keeping out any contaminants is the fact that every tiny leak is only going to have air going from the inside to the outside other than the filter itself. If you've got a big room with only one tightly sealed door, you don't need a lot of flow to keep out any contaminants.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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post #12

Brilliant marketing: 1. get people worried about something they previously didn't care about; 2. as a solution, add a new part to the car that will need frequent replacement and maintenance, thereby increasing the CLV.

3. Get the car featured in every zombie/terrorist/zombie terrorist movie made from now on.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Brilliant marketing: 1. get people worried about something they previously didn't care about; 2. as a solution, add a new part to the car that will need frequent replacement and maintenance, thereby increasing the CLV.

I can't wait for the model 3. it will have a bear attack prevention rock as standard equipment!

Indeed. I see people complaint that this is marketing. It exactly is. Just like Steve Jobs and his jewel-style boxes. Some people enjoy paying for a good show. The biodefense is straight out from a Tarantino style: When you exaggerate enough that you can't possibly be taken seriously, but the audience starts discussing whether that's credible or not.

There is a strange expectation that you can't have a good laugh about your products if they are not otherwise perfect. I'm not a sociologist, but something tell me that when the discussion shifts on non-essential elements like the HEPA filter, people assume the rest of the car just works.

I'm asthmatic and I've been told people in a car are more exposed to polluants than cyclists. Should I consider a Tesla ;)?

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