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Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by jessaustin »

tn13 wrote: post #20
SteveNuts wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Can you expand on that please?

Elon Musk's rich people's gadgets are heavily subsidized by American government (read average Americans). American government is paying around $8k per car to Musk. A lot of this money seems to be wasted to adding swag to this car that gets Musk some positive PR if nothing else. It is stupid to point out that this might help China or some other polluted country, why should Americans pay for it ? Very likely China will…

I thought it was just a tax credit? That's very different than "American government is paying". It's more like, "American government admits that taxpayer has put money to a better purpose than American government would have."

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by tux1968 »

dmlorenzetti wrote: post #10

Bioweapon Defense Mode is not a marketing statement, it is real. Their filter does a good job cleaning particles out of the cabin air. Good on them. Nevertheless, calling it "Bioweapon Defense Mode" is clearly a prize bit of marketing. A system designed to protect against an external bioagent wouldn't run huge amounts of outside air through the filter. That would just load the filter more quickly, impacting its perfo…

Don't think its the filter that they're referring to as BDM, it's positive cabin pressure. Or at least, the combination.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by sndean »

Why couldn't they have just left it as "it's a really good air filter"?

If you're in the vicinity of bioweapon aerosol, the particles will possibly still be present in air once you get out or will have coated your car. Also, for some of these organisms, you only need to inhale So, unless Tesla plans on packing powered air purifying respirators [2] in their cars, this is a gimmick.

[1] http://www.asm.org/ccLibraryFiles/FILENAME/0000000660/nw1103... [2] http://www.legionsafety.com/msa-optimair-tl-papr-kit-for-hoo...

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by bobbles »

dmlorenzetti wrote: post #10

Bioweapon Defense Mode is not a marketing statement, it is real. Their filter does a good job cleaning particles out of the cabin air. Good on them. Nevertheless, calling it "Bioweapon Defense Mode" is clearly a prize bit of marketing. A system designed to protect against an external bioagent wouldn't run huge amounts of outside air through the filter. That would just load the filter more quickly, impacting its perfo…

I think the idea is though that the car air is already compromised. e.g. they have opened the doors to get into the car, then closed the doors and enabled the BDM.

It needs to filter the air from outside and get it into the car to quickly displace the air already inside the vehicle that is contaminated.

At the point where the air is clean though it would be a good idea to make the car it's own little safe haven and allow the occupants to drive to safety (hell it could even drive itself to safety if it can sense when the air is safe again outside)

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by gcb0 »

crdb wrote: post #12

Brilliant marketing: 1. get people worried about something they previously didn't care about; 2. as a solution, add a new part to the car that will need frequent replacement and maintenance, thereby increasing the CLV.

I can't wait for the model 3. it will have a bear attack prevention rock as standard equipment!

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by idoco »

dmlorenzetti wrote: post #10

Bioweapon Defense Mode is not a marketing statement, it is real. Their filter does a good job cleaning particles out of the cabin air. Good on them. Nevertheless, calling it "Bioweapon Defense Mode" is clearly a prize bit of marketing. A system designed to protect against an external bioagent wouldn't run huge amounts of outside air through the filter. That would just load the filter more quickly, impacting its perfo…

I disagree, and I can tell you from first hand experience that this is how a tank NBC protection system works - The crew cabin is pressurized with high flow of filtered air.

http://elbitsystems.com/Elbitmain/files/Kinetics_NBC-CBRN.pd...

[Edit - adding this] I can also say, that this creates a very uncomfortable sensation in your ears while the cabin is being over-pressurized (about 2 minutes)

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by Theodores »

Has any other manufacturer tried selling cars with this angle? Not really, although claims for car ventilation and air conditioning have been made before. It seems that because Tesla are 'part of the solution' they can take this marketing angle wholeheartedly. I also believe Elon Musk really wants the air quality, he has pushed for this feature.

"You are what you breathe..."

...is my marketing statement for Tesla.

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by lucaspiller »

tn13 wrote: post #17
ch4ch4 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe to pander to the Chinese market? They've been having trouble with cancelled orders in China. Definitely not a waste of money if it means that they can offload inventory...

I am referring to American taxpayers money. Poorest of poor in America is subsidizing these rich people gadgets at around $8k per unit. Why should we gift this money to China ? If Chinese people want clean air let Chinese government fund it.

I assume that the cost of the parts are insignificant compared to the cost of R&D and manufacturing labour costs, which AFAIK are all on US soil. Even if a car is sold to a Chinese customer, the money they pay and the money the gov pays is creating more jobs that it would have otherwise (and also lining Musk's back pocket).

Re: Putting the Tesla HEPA Filter and Bioweapon Defense Mode to the Test

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Post by joshontheweb »

beloch wrote: post #18

Maybe it's just all the Prince nostalgia speaking, but ever since watching the classic 1989 version of Batman, I've wondered how long you'd really be safe inside of a car during a terrorist chemical weapon attack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hn-CTSKmeo Thankyou Tesla for delivering a car that the 1989 version of me would have been pretty keen on acquiring!

This is exactly what I thought of! One of the most memorable scenes of my childhood.
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