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One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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I thought he was referring to all the beer, brauts, and deep dish pizza. http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/bill-swerskis-s...

If you want that, come to Milwaukee!

Milwaukee was nice. :,(

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Please don't come to Austin. I moved from SF to Austin a little over two years ago, and I want to make it clear that it's terrible. The food is bad, the people are lame, and all the musicians are out of tune. I hear Chicago is where it's at, so please go there. Or New York. Or anywhere else, really. Just don't come to Austin.

I just want to add that Fort Lauderdale is a horrible, horrible place too. We don't have a tech industry here so you won't find work.

Agreed. But you can find work doing C# .net contracting via recruiters. I've got a friend who's been doing it for 10 years and is never out of work very long and bills at good rates for the area. He was telling me a funny story: he interviewed for a spot in an IT department of averaged sized non-tech company and they said he had to wear slacks, collared long sleeve blouse, and name tag to work every day. lol. He said no thanks.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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What's the number of people that want to move to the Bay Area though?

I'm thinking about moving to either Bay Area or Los Angeles with a family, from Prague. I have a 7 years old kid. I am not sure if that's the right thing. We're doing it for the climate. It's really difficult to find a warm English-speaking country where you won't be culturally isolated from the rest of the world. I can work pretty much from anywhere, however I am not a magnate. Things definitely to be missed: - Prag…

There are some other American cities with "good enough" climates and tech hubs if you're not looking to be in the Valley specifically. Austin and Atlanta are two that would be southern enough that it probably meet the rest of your criteria. It may not be as nice as the Valley per se, but still perhaps nicer than what you're used to. If you're not particularly worried about being in a tech hub because you work remotely and intend to continue to do so, a whole lot of other areas of interest open up too, both in and out of the US.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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What technology are you referring to?

At the extreme, these things can hold a lot of people without too much land: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyscraper But you don't really need those in most places. Simply building 'in' more and up 2/3/4 stories would add a ton of housing in much of the bay area.

Those are very expensive to build, approaching $1000/sqft. Also require utilities, transit, and other city services (schools, police, fire, etc).

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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> You can have good mass transit or affordable housing, but not both. Why's that?

The density needed for effective mass transit means that what many people seem to see as affordable housing ("a house with a white picket fence") isn't going to work especially well.

A house with a fence may or may not be affordable, but it's not dense for sure.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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It seems to me the real answer is to leave. This town ain't big enough for everybody. Mass transit isn't going to solve this problem.

Yup, it can just become 50% empty investment properties, and folks can scrounge for what's left. Some solution is going to be needed to prevent that situation, though maybe with all those empty houses, there'll be less people to make traffic so bad.

If lots of people leave, investing in property won't be as attractive, and folks will have more to scrounge among.

But then, this is SF's usual cycle.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Is the Bay Area no longer a good place to start a career? I'm close to finishing up my PhD, and my original plan was to apply to work at the tech companies that I find most interesting. For the most part, these are located in the Bay Area — although some are in New York, Austin, Boston, Seattle, Raleigh, and Atlanta. I figured I would stay there 2-4 years tops though, since my family and girlfriend live in the southe…

I'm slightly older than you (my college friends finished their PhDs 2 years ago), grew up in SV and still work here. With respect to cost of living, I think it is fine to start a career here. A PhD starting salary at most (big) places will cover a 1 bed room in a good area with decent transit options like San Mateo just fine. You won't live like a king but you won't like like a miser either. That being said looking f…

Thanks for the advice. I'll check out the Boston area too.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Come check out troy, new york. Growing startup scene and lots of awesome shops and cafe's.

Is there really a lot to offer there? I currently live farther upstate (north of the Adirondacks) and have been considering moving down to the capital region.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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You can have affordable housing, good mass transit, and jobs. Pick two.

Chicago has all three. It just has a really shitty climate and is surrounded by...corn fields

Don't forget the soy!

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I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

> Literally broken windows This would be a code violation. Neighbors would in theory be reporting it.

They can report it all they like. The city (or HOA) will send a letter to the homeowner demanding that they fix it. If the don't fix it in a few years then they'll send a second letter or may go as far as to take a lien out on the property. What doesn't happen is that the window gets fixed.
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