One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds • Hacker News Board

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by oxryly1 » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:46 PM UTC

jseliger wrote: post #8

Makes sense. I wrote a piece called "Do millennials have a future in Seattle? Do millennials have a future in any superstar cities?" ( http://jakeseliger.com/2015/09/24/do-millennials-have-a-futu... ) that focuses on Seattle, but the problems in SF are even worse. We're seeing decades of parochial land use policies turn into affordability crises in SF and similar cities. Which is why so many people are moving to Texa…

You can have good mass transit or affordable housing, but not both. This sucks.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by windlep » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:46 PM UTC

andrewmcwatters wrote: post #16

windlep wrote: post #5

I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

It seems to me the real answer is to leave. This town ain't big enough for everybody. Mass transit isn't going to solve this problem.

Yup, it can just become 50% empty investment properties, and folks can scrounge for what's left. Some solution is going to be needed to prevent that situation, though maybe with all those empty houses, there'll be less people to make traffic so bad.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by jshorty » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

I may be missing some nuance here, but wouldn't increasing sales tax (as the Silicon Valley Leadership Group is advocating) further disproportionately punish lower-income residents? The article doesn't make clear whether moving towards a "Manhattan-like megalopolis" would be a positive or negative trend, but this would push it further down that road.

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by zem » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

easuter wrote: post #23

jonstokes wrote: post #4

Please don't come to Austin. I moved from SF to Austin a little over two years ago, and I want to make it clear that it's terrible. The food is bad, the people are lame, and all the musicians are out of tune. I hear Chicago is where it's at, so please go there. Or New York. Or anywhere else, really. Just don't come to Austin.

I hear you'll have a lower life expectancy in Chicago...but that's just what I gather from the news :(

on the plus side that won't disenfranchise you!

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by refriedbeans3 » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

bye felicia. lower rents for all!

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by pacomerh » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:47 PM UTC

jonstokes wrote: post #4

Please don't come to Austin. I moved from SF to Austin a little over two years ago, and I want to make it clear that it's terrible. The food is bad, the people are lame, and all the musicians are out of tune. I hear Chicago is where it's at, so please go there. Or New York. Or anywhere else, really. Just don't come to Austin.

You just put Austin in everyones head now. hehe

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by eva1984 » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:48 PM UTC

Seattle is good!

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by markcerqueira » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:48 PM UTC

trhway wrote: post #3

Hope too, in 20 years, retire to Latin America :) Until that, I have to work, and BA is the only place where a programmer can work.

"BA is the only place where a programmer can work."

You forgot the /s

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by oxryly1 » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:48 PM UTC

yock wrote: post #28

windlep wrote: post #5

I'm sure the fact that there's an increasing trend of empty Chinese investment properties isn't helping. I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off…

> I grew up in Cupertino, and when I visit my parents there, I'm rather shocked at how downhill the neighborhood has gone in parts. It's crazy that these old 70's tract homes go for 1.5 million. Even more insane is that they're bought and then left empty to go downhill. Literally broken windows and paint falling off. I never used to see that. Do you have any idea what's behind this?

Chinese capital chasing the California real estate dream?

Re: One-third of SF Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Mon, May 02, 2016, 6:48 PM UTC

easuter wrote: post #23

jonstokes wrote: post #4

Please don't come to Austin. I moved from SF to Austin a little over two years ago, and I want to make it clear that it's terrible. The food is bad, the people are lame, and all the musicians are out of tune. I hear Chicago is where it's at, so please go there. Or New York. Or anywhere else, really. Just don't come to Austin.

I hear you'll have a lower life expectancy in Chicago...but that's just what I gather from the news :(

It's not actually that bad. But we probably make more of an effort to be aware of our surroundings. I've never been robbed, but I've known from a young age that you never leave anything valuable visible in your car.