It's only a matter of time until some asshole blows up a security line. If you look at countries with real terrorism problems (eg Israel) they handle their airport security very, very differently.
isn't that what they did in brussels?
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#1727) Hang all responsible for the creation and continued funding of the TSA from low branches in the middle of Central Park. The loss of life will be a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of the person-hours burned by the meaningless and expensive folly that is airport security theater, I assure you.
Please don't.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had a wine opener confiscated because of the 1 inch knife ... can't imagine how someone might use a wine opener to hijack a plane
A stab in the jugular will get the job done. But of course you can break the plastic knife and fork they give you and still stab someone in the jugular. You could even sharpen the headphones connector.
Or repurpose any of the other things you can buy after the security line: http://www.terminalcornucopia.com/
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, the TSA sucks big time and should be abolished. I get that. But what about the alternatives? In this day and age it's just not thinkable to let people enter a plane without a security check. So you need some entity performing it. I think one factor on providing successful and to the passenger acceptable (they will never be pleasant) security checks is adequate funding and employing adequately compensated professi…
I think the original plan was that the TSA would set some rules and make the airports comply with them, and the airports would be responsible for doing screenings. Somehow that got warped into government agents doing the work. Why is it 'unthinkable' to let people enter a plane without a security check? We let people get on a bus without a security check. If you're worried specifically about someone taking over the p…
> the airports would be responsible for doing screenings
Airports are generally productions of municipal governments and badly mismanaged, money-losing construction projects. I don't anticipate county-managed security programs being any less awful than federally-managed security programs.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was from League of Leagends (Sivir). It's not sharp or aerodynamic, just a "spinner" toy. One of the vendors from the League convention I put on gave it to me as a token of thanks just before the event ended. I dropped it in my bag and forgot it until flying a few weeks later. Bonus: My business partner was given the same one and the same thing happened at BUR. TSA asked if she wanted to mail it home, she said "to…
I'm having trouble picturing this. Could you upload a photo to imgur?
Something like this I'm guessing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rotatable-LOL-League-of-Legends-Sivi...
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
The number of people in the security line is dependent only upon the rate at which they are processed and the total number arriving for their flights, doesn't depend upon how early people get there. And once people get through the lines, there's no change from before so there'd be no large increase in how many people are in the waiting areas. (Except for the increase in uncertainty in how long the lines will take, th…
I'm not contesting that; I'm just pointing out a separate reason it wouldn't work.
Sorry, I don't understand. I'm contesting your claim that airports would have to hold more people than they currently are if people showed up earlier to account for the longer lines.
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#177Blaming volume? How about 1) the switch from metal detectors to less numerous and slower body scanners? 2) the allocation of employee resources to the "pre check" line leaving less staff for 90% of travelers. 3) still having to take belts and shoes off even with a full body scan? This program has gotten seriously out of hand and is incredibly frustrating. I don't care if it's 3 hours or "75 minutes" anything over 15…
You don't actually have to take your belt off for the full body scan. I left it on once by accident and wasn't questioned, nor was I the next dozen or so times I've flown.
The scanner will flag it up. I left headphones in my pocket; they were flagged. I got rained on before entering the airport; my damp clothes were flagged. This will make you subject to a mandatory groping at the very least.
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#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was from League of Leagends (Sivir). It's not sharp or aerodynamic, just a "spinner" toy. One of the vendors from the League convention I put on gave it to me as a token of thanks just before the event ended. I dropped it in my bag and forgot it until flying a few weeks later. Bonus: My business partner was given the same one and the same thing happened at BUR. TSA asked if she wanted to mail it home, she said "to…
I'm having trouble picturing this. Could you upload a photo to imgur?
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#179I think Trump would abolish the TSA. Cruz has said he would, too. I'd like to see either one get in, though I wonder if the President should be able to just decide on his own to shut down an agency that Congress has approved. Why has Congress not shut it down? I don't think anybody really likes the TSA, so I can't imagine there'd be too much opposition to a bill abolishing them. It affects so many people you could pr…
This makes me sound jaded, but its a jobs program at its core. Every person in congress with a major airport in their district will try to prevent it from being privatized / disbanded. There are two types of people that go work for the TSA: 1) Those who can't get a job anywhere else, and 2) People trying to break in to the federal security market by going to TSA and transferring in. Yes, in gvt it is easier to get a…
The ones in KC are already contractors. "First Line" instead of TSA. They are also a lot nicer than the government TSA, who typically bark orders like prison guards.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm having trouble picturing this. Could you upload a photo to imgur?
Something like this I'm guessing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rotatable-LOL-League-of-Legends-Sivi...
Yeah exactly that.
I can imagine that looking really scary through the x-ray but it's definitely not a weapon.
I'm not indignant about being stopped with it - just about being treated like a criminal instead of someone who just made a mistake. It was like my 30th flight of the year and I had (real) status with 2 airlines, and I was in a tiny little PreCheck screening wing with maybe 6 other passengers and 10 TSA at 5:00 AM.
It just seems like everything lined up for this to be a simple process that would have been easily determined to be inadvertent and not a danger to anyone, but I still got hosed!