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Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by spyspy »

vincefutr23 wrote: post #4

Blaming volume? How about 1) the switch from metal detectors to less numerous and slower body scanners? 2) the allocation of employee resources to the "pre check" line leaving less staff for 90% of travelers. 3) still having to take belts and shoes off even with a full body scan? This program has gotten seriously out of hand and is incredibly frustrating. I don't care if it's 3 hours or "75 minutes" anything over 15…

You don't actually have to take your belt off for the full body scan. I left it on once by accident and wasn't questioned, nor was I the next dozen or so times I've flown.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by raldi »

hashkb wrote: post #30
sneak wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Body searches to travel without suspicion of wrongdoing are absurd, period.

Just go get pre check?

A lot of travelers can barely afford to fly as it is. The only way this fast lane can function is if it's exclusive to a small segment of flyers.

Do we really need to keep widening the gap between the haves and have-nots?

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by spyspy »

MichaelBurge wrote: post #39

I think Trump would abolish the TSA. Cruz has said he would, too. I'd like to see either one get in, though I wonder if the President should be able to just decide on his own to shut down an agency that Congress has approved. Why has Congress not shut it down? I don't think anybody really likes the TSA, so I can't imagine there'd be too much opposition to a bill abolishing them. It affects so many people you could pr…

But any politician that supported such a bill would be crucified if and when another terrorist attack occurs.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by buzzdenver »

jsnell wrote: post #3

How is coming to the airport earlier supposed to solve what's obviously a throughput problem? Sure, for an individual it reduces the chances they'll miss their flight. But if everyone does it, there's obviously no change. The only way showing up earlier would help with throughput is if there are periods of time where the security is under-utilized with absolutely no queues. Which, from my experience with US airports,…

Nobody said that it has any effect on throughput. It only solves the problem of missing your flight.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by sneak »

hashkb wrote: post #30
sneak wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Body searches to travel without suspicion of wrongdoing are absurd, period.

Just go get pre check?

TSA Pre is the equivalent of "fuck you, got mine".

It makes it personally more convenient for you, while simultaneously ignoring or condoning the waste of millions of person-hours without consent, which basically equates to mass murder if you squnt hard enough at the math.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by brown9-2 »

MichaelBurge wrote: post #39

I think Trump would abolish the TSA. Cruz has said he would, too. I'd like to see either one get in, though I wonder if the President should be able to just decide on his own to shut down an agency that Congress has approved. Why has Congress not shut it down? I don't think anybody really likes the TSA, so I can't imagine there'd be too much opposition to a bill abolishing them. It affects so many people you could pr…

Why has Congress not shut it down? I don't think anybody really likes the TSA, so I can't imagine there'd be too much opposition to a bill abolishing them

Good luck finding someone who wants to be the anti-airport-security candidate.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by danieltillett »

Hondor wrote: post #35

If a terrorist wanted to kill a lot of people confined into too small space to run away, what better target than these densely packed zig-zag queues? Really, what's the point of protecting a plane carrying hundreds of people by putting those same people into harm's way like that? It already happened in China - Muslim terrorists killed dozens of people waiting in a ticket hall a couple of years ago.

Isn't that exactly what happened in Belgium.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by ChrisBland »

MichaelBurge wrote: post #39

I think Trump would abolish the TSA. Cruz has said he would, too. I'd like to see either one get in, though I wonder if the President should be able to just decide on his own to shut down an agency that Congress has approved. Why has Congress not shut it down? I don't think anybody really likes the TSA, so I can't imagine there'd be too much opposition to a bill abolishing them. It affects so many people you could pr…

This makes me sound jaded, but its a jobs program at its core. Every person in congress with a major airport in their district will try to prevent it from being privatized / disbanded. There are two types of people that go work for the TSA: 1) Those who can't get a job anywhere else, and 2) People trying to break in to the federal security market by going to TSA and transferring in. Yes, in gvt it is easier to get a new job if you already work in gvt vs applying from the outside.

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by tehwebguy »

raldi wrote: post #33
tehwebguy wrote: post #25

Here's an awesome TSA story for you: Late last year while trying to fly out of LAX a TSA employee thought I was carrying a throwing star. They called the police, who correctly identified as a toy in seconds. I thought the whole ordeal was over until I got a "notice of violation" in the mail from TSA 45 days later. Now I'm banned from pre-check for three years, even though I have global entry and even though the fine…

What kind of toy was it?

It was from League of Leagends (Sivir). It's not sharp or aerodynamic, just a "spinner" toy.

One of the vendors from the League convention I put on gave it to me as a token of thanks just before the event ended. I dropped it in my bag and forgot it until flying a few weeks later.

Bonus: My business partner was given the same one and the same thing happened at BUR. TSA asked if she wanted to mail it home, she said "toss it" and never heard another word!

Bonus 2: Cop asks me "who do you main?" (as in, what champion do you mainly play in LoL)

Re: Catching a Flight? Budget Hours, Not Minutes, for Security

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Post by GordonS »

spyspy wrote: post #41
vincefutr23 wrote: post #4

Blaming volume? How about 1) the switch from metal detectors to less numerous and slower body scanners? 2) the allocation of employee resources to the "pre check" line leaving less staff for 90% of travelers. 3) still having to take belts and shoes off even with a full body scan? This program has gotten seriously out of hand and is incredibly frustrating. I don't care if it's 3 hours or "75 minutes" anything over 15…

You don't actually have to take your belt off for the full body scan. I left it on once by accident and wasn't questioned, nor was I the next dozen or so times I've flown.

I think it depends on which TSA agents you get, and what kind of mood they are in
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