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Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by Frondo »

mistermann wrote: post #110
gaius wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This mirrors my experience. I take my ideas from both right and left, but if I post any left-wing viewpoint on something (corporate taxation, say) the hard right might disagree but they keep it respectful. Whereas say anything even centrist and I get instant, vicious hate and bile from the left. Fortunately those people have very poor impulse control and are prone to rage-blocking, so I never have to bother with them…

Describes my experiences as well, both online and off. People love to paint conservatives as dumb and intolerant, but like you I generally find the right to be willing to debate, whereas the left considers themselves right , end of discussion.

Heh, not my experiences at all. Especially the right wingers in the comments section of my local paper--post anything about bikes, for example, and the folks with Reagan as their user icon immediately come out with stuff about how badly they'd like to run any cyclist down in their truck.

But, even given that, I'd hasten to put anything down as "those people are the real jerks," because I don't think anyone has a monopoly on being a jerk.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by llimllib »

k5mumble wrote: post #127
nikcub wrote: post #7

Kuro5hin ran a block-all in their robots.txt[0] so this is more historic internet content that will dissapear into the abyss. Anyone know of a mirror or an effort to mirror and host the site? [0] http://www.kuro5hin.org/robots.txt

I wrote a k5 screen scraper, and have 95% of k5 diaries, unfortunately I don't have any stories. Date range for my archive is: 2001-1-4 to 2015-7-22 For a total of 161,942 diaries: http://k5.semantic-db.org/diary-slurp/161942--archive-diarie... Here is a summary of what I have in my archive: http://kr5ddit.com/post/759 Here are some tables showing which kuron had the highest number of posts over the lifetime of k5: h…

#200!

Some of my very first publicly useful code was a script to download and backup my diaries, so I have that extremely embarrassing reminder of my college years.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by gherkin0 »

Pxtl wrote: post #91
brianberns wrote: post #14

First there was Slashdot, but CmdrTaco insisted on picking the stories for us. He called it an "omelet". Kuro5hin came along to fix this, but discouraged posts that were just links to pages elsewhere on the web. IIRC, this was called "link farming". How many users had the talent and time to create original content, and then survive the ridiculous Kuro5shin editing process? Not many. Digg then encouraged links, but sh…

Except that Reddit is gradually turning into 4chan. Every time I see /r/all, it's a little more mean-spirited, a little younger, a little more toxic. Outsourcing moderation and libertarian ideals all sound nice, but when the rubber hits the road it gradually chases normal people away. Reddit just did it it slower because the strengths of their platform and content overwhelmed it... but it's getting there eventually.

It's really unfortunate that this post about the (final?) end of Kuro5hin.org ended up getting completely derailed and dominated by an unoriginal discussion about reddit.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by MustardTiger »

liotier wrote: post #170
MustardTiger wrote: post #108

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Reddit is incredibly, overwhelmingly left. Note the number of socialist and even communist subs, and their subscriber counts. The fact that a tiny minority of right wing people have taken up residence in an attempt to "fight back" does not make the site "overrun" with conservatives. And equating conservative with hateful is pretty disingenuous.

> Reddit is incredibly, overwhelmingly left Go read /r/Europe and then tell me again... Right-wing xenophobia rules nowadays.

/r/europe is overwhelmingly left. The mods constantly censor things critical of the mainstream open borders stance. The presence of a tiny minority of constantly attacked and banned right wing people does not mean "right-wing xenophobia" rules.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by MustardTiger »

vanderZwan wrote: post #159
MustardTiger wrote: post #156

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>How is that not relevant? Because nobody is suggesting that minority is anything other than a minority. Simply that having that minority is normal.

Ok, I must be missing something: first you say "this is what normal people are like" , I respond "no, it's a vocal minority appearing like they take up a bigger share of society than they are." How can you claim "nobody is suggesting that minority is anything other than a minority" when I am literally arguing that they are, in the sense that they are over-represented on the internet? And if you are saying "this is wh…

I don't understand the confusion. Normal people includes a diverse group of people, including those you would consider "toxic". This is true in real life, and on every mainstream website. Real name policies did not change this. Because this is reality. Reddit has become more like facebook, twitter, etc. Because it has grown, and is no longer mainly a homogeneous little group of tech guys. Saying reddit has driven away normal people because it has become more representative of normal people is absurd.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by xienze »

lintiness wrote: post #175
ihsw wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said /r/all and not the default subs. /r/all is generally a cesspool nowadays, especially with all the #TREMENDOUS /r/the_donald shitposts. I have seen Trump-tier shitposting leak into /r/China and other completely unrelated subs as well. It's getting out of hand.

you must have missed all the bernie sanders stuff.

Well it was OK then because it agreed with his worldview, you see.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by rustyk5 »

Hey so this is Rusty -- What happened was basically that Internap shut down the data center we were in and had to move the servers, and I conspicuously failed to Deal With Things around that. The content is probably not gone forever, but it may be a little while before it reappears. There's a very good chance that it will reappear in the form of an archive of static html pages though, not a live community. So if you'd like to, this is probably a good time to mourn what it was, although in that sense K5 has clearly been over for years.

Re: RIP Kuro5hin

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Post by ocschwar »

k5mumble wrote: post #127
nikcub wrote: post #7

Kuro5hin ran a block-all in their robots.txt[0] so this is more historic internet content that will dissapear into the abyss. Anyone know of a mirror or an effort to mirror and host the site? [0] http://www.kuro5hin.org/robots.txt

I wrote a k5 screen scraper, and have 95% of k5 diaries, unfortunately I don't have any stories. Date range for my archive is: 2001-1-4 to 2015-7-22 For a total of 161,942 diaries: http://k5.semantic-db.org/diary-slurp/161942--archive-diarie... Here is a summary of what I have in my archive: http://kr5ddit.com/post/759 Here are some tables showing which kuron had the highest number of posts over the lifetime of k5: h…

Thank you!! Downloading to get my old stuff.
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