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Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by hiddennetwork »

rdegges wrote: post #3

OnHub is one of the best routers I've ever owned. I've been buying custom router hardware for years -- I even went as far as building my own OpenBSD / PFsense router way back when, but nothing I've ever built (or bought!) has given me the same reliability / stability / speed as the OnHub. I'm seriously impressed with it. Also: the OnHub management app for mobile is AMAZING. It is so cool. Awesome product. Really grea…

What bothers me about this device is the necessity to have a live Google account, which takes in everything I surf in real time. I have serious reservations about this.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by slrz »

delroth wrote: post #133
semi-extrinsic wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pray tell, security updates for what? My router has all WAN-side management features etc. turned off, WPS is turned off and it has a long random WPA passphrase. Unless someone breaks into my apartment, there just isn't a significant potential for security risks that I'm aware of.

Unless you also disable execution of Javascript on all the devices that connect to your network (including your phones, set-top boxes, etc.), these devices can be used to attack your router from the LAN. Just use Javascript to autosubmit a form with action=" http://192.168.1.1/exploitable/endpoint/" (you can autodetect the IP, look for Javascript port scanners on Google) and you're in. And before you say that DD-WRT…

Or simply disable the freakin' web interface if people just can't get it secure?

You should still apply security fixes for (relevant) kernel and sshd issues, of course.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by ProAm »

kyrra wrote: post #132
ProAm wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who are you quoting there? I didn't say that.

I put it on comments I make that are google related. I probably should have put it as a footer instead of header to the post. I'll do that in the future to not confuse it as a quote (I didn't think about it that way when I did it)

Oh, that makes sense now. Didnt mean to sound accusatory.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by kyrra »

ProAm wrote: post #183
kyrra wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put it on comments I make that are google related. I probably should have put it as a footer instead of header to the post. I'll do that in the future to not confuse it as a quote (I didn't think about it that way when I did it)

Oh, that makes sense now. Didnt mean to sound accusatory.

I knew what you meant. :) thank you for pointing it out.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by Karunamon »

nitrogen wrote: post #145
Karunamon wrote: post #123

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...which don't seem to rely on vulnerabilities introduced via update mechanisms.

I don't think we can say that for sure. For one example, there was the Skype update that removed most peer-to-peer features and added interception abilities.

Or, because peer to peer Skype sucked given the dismal status of the average home user's internet connection.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by Karunamon »

victorhooi wrote: post #165
Karunamon wrote: post #125

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I don't think you know what a logical fallacy is. Which one did I commit? Calm down, please. I am not "waving a pitchfork". I didn't own a Reolv, I don't have a horse in this race. However, I do think that there's a valid discussion to be had over the fate of a device that's integrated to the point a "home automation hub" is. The normal expectation is that these devices continue to work for the life of the device, no…

Revolv was sold as a cloud-managed device - the thousand or so people who bought one knew this. This isn't a unique problem just to Revolv, or home automation. What happens when any company that provides a SaaS or cloud service goes bust? Say you host your app on AWS, or DigitalOcean - if the company shuts down, will you claim that it's not "fair" for them to shutdown on you, and they must keep your application runni…

they knew exactly what they were buying.

Why am I reminded of a scene from Airplane! here?

The average person probably doesn't even know what "the cloud" is beyond the name of a product or two. They know that they can push a button their phone and turn the lights off.

You imply a level of knowing and care that most people do not have, and so one that is not realistic, or reasonable to expect.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by mikecb »

dingaling wrote: post #168
mikecb wrote: post #134

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The PM has been very active on various forums talking to users about best ways to implement things like storage. IPv6 is enabled in beta channel (channel switching was accelerated after many users expressed desire for it), and is waiting on upstream stability fixes, which afaik they are submitting directly to the linux kernel. It will roll out when ready, not before. This is what I want from a piece of infrastructure…

> IPv6 is enabled in beta channel ... and is waiting on upstream stability fixes I'll be interested to see the kernel patches because in my experience the kernel-side of IPv6 has been stable for over a decade, including the past seven years with a native IPv6 Internet connection through Linux routers. Google itself enabled public IPv6 connectivity in 2009 so I am surprised that a Google-affiliated team is having issu…

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnHub/comments/43vivm/release_notes...

https://www.reddit.com/r/OnHub/comments/3sv1zt/support_for_i...

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by mrbill »

NegativeLatency wrote: post #104
mrbill wrote: post #42

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Same here.. Long string of custom built routers, pfsense with wifi, OpenWRT, etc... even at one point a very expensive Cisco industrial-class 2.4/5 AP. Now I have an Ubiquiti Edgerouter Lite as my "core" router, and the OnHub acting as just-an-AP in bridge mode. It Just Works, and works better than any piece of wireless gear I've had before. My only "complaint" would be that I'm forced to use a mobile app for configu…

Why not get a ubiquity AP?

I had a Ubiquiti Unifi-LR (flashed with normal OpenWRT so I didn't have to use their Java-based management software for ONE access point) that worked great, but the OnHub works even better. The -LR was 802.11n-only.

The Unifi-AC runs about $269, more than the OnHub.

Looks like they now have a Unifi-AC-LITE, which is sub-$100, but it wasn't available when I got the OnHub that I know of.

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by kruipen »

some-guy wrote: post #36

I tried OnHub, but unfortunately it didn't have the option to force 5Ghz over 2.4Ghz for devices without going through some hacks. Where I live, 2.4Ghz wireless has 10% packet loss on average, no matter which router I use. I'm happy that routers are finally getting the UX treatment they deserve, and their target market isn't for people who know the difference between the two, but OnHub should keep the nitty-gritty de…

https://on.google.com/hub/blog/2016-03-17/speedy-wi-fi-with-...

Re: Google rolls out “If This Then That” support for its $200 OnHub router

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Post by nunez »

rdegges wrote: post #3

OnHub is one of the best routers I've ever owned. I've been buying custom router hardware for years -- I even went as far as building my own OpenBSD / PFsense router way back when, but nothing I've ever built (or bought!) has given me the same reliability / stability / speed as the OnHub. I'm seriously impressed with it. Also: the OnHub management app for mobile is AMAZING. It is so cool. Awesome product. Really grea…

Have you ever tried using an Apple AirPort Extreme? That's the router we're running with at home and it's been damn amazing. I haven't had to touch the thing since I bought it 1.5 years ago, and it's only been off three times during the time I've had it (all due to power outages). It's also ridiculously fast; I get almost all of my allocated throughput over Wi-Fi. It's amazing.
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