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Gentoo Tesla – T2 Edition

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Imagine you're traveling the desert thousands of years ago. You come upon a party of nomads. You would like water, and you would like them not to rob you, kill you, and bury you in the sand. It's very important you don't say or do anything to offend them. You want them to treat you with respect and kindness, so you have to treat them as such. But how do you do that? The rule does not cover that at all. But somehow yo…

Okay I think you get what I'm saying. The Golden Rule would have gotten you killed in the desert if those nomads find flint to be some kind of sacred metal only their priests can carry or something equally absurd. I just don't think "treat people with kindness" is what the Golden Rule says. That might be the intent of the people who reference it, but the Golden Rule literally says, "Treat others how you wish to be tr…

And I'm saying, you are not supposed to take it literally. It is supposed to be interpreted. You don't treat them literally the only way you personally want to be treated. It's a call to think of them as the same as you.

Why interpret it as "do what they would want, not what you would want" ? Because at its root it's asking you to have empathy and compassion. You simply can't achieve both those things without putting yourself in their shoes, and then trying to feel and understand the way they do. At that point, when you are them, you act in a way they would want, and it becomes a compassionate act.

When I was saying before that this benefits you in the end, that's true, though there is no actual reciprocity expected in this rule. It really is all about just doing good for another person.

Ask a theologian about it some time. They explain it better.

Re: Gentoo Tesla – T2 Edition

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Okay I think you get what I'm saying. The Golden Rule would have gotten you killed in the desert if those nomads find flint to be some kind of sacred metal only their priests can carry or something equally absurd. I just don't think "treat people with kindness" is what the Golden Rule says. That might be the intent of the people who reference it, but the Golden Rule literally says, "Treat others how you wish to be tr…

And I'm saying, you are not supposed to take it literally. It is supposed to be interpreted. You don't treat them literally the only way you personally want to be treated. It's a call to think of them as the same as you. Why interpret it as "do what they would want, not what you would want" ? Because at its root it's asking you to have empathy and compassion. You simply can't achieve both those things without putting…

There is a completely different meaning behind what you're claiming it says and what it actually says. If we can just inject our own meaning into words, they lose purpose.

I interpret the Golden Rule as it is written -- a bad rule, from an intolerant time where everyone was expected to be the same. It never really applied, but now we have the cognitive tools to identify it as bogus.

Re: Gentoo Tesla – T2 Edition

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Presumably, he got around their intrusion detection system.

Not sure if there is one, though, I have a feeling there is. I've done nothing to make the car be upset, though. My X session is running on tty1 while the car's UI is running on tty2. As long as the car's normal UI system is running everything is happy. If you shut that down, say, starting fluxbox on that X session (this may or may not have happened), the gateway freaks out because it lost contact and forcibly resets…

I recall a post somewhere where someone claimed that attempts to hack his Tesla resulted in a message about unauthorized access being detected with the threat of his mobile connection being severed if it recurred. My guess that there is a IDS was based on that.

Re: Gentoo Tesla – T2 Edition

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"That aspect, that it was at one time, or still is, gender-specific, is what makes it inappropriate to call a person who doesn't identify with that gender." Why do you think you can dictate what _is_ inappropriate for the rest of mankind?

Humankind. :-) And I don't get to do anything other than dictate my own behavior, and try to express an idea. Sorry if that came off as dictatorial. What I meant to say was: Anyone who would rather treat someone how they personally want them to be treated, rather than how the other person wishes to be treated, has forgotten The Golden Rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule In terms of human relations in gene…

I appreciate your response. Your values are something I can get behind.
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