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Yeah, stuff and food and automated services would be cheap, but real estate expensive. Like today, but even more so.
Real estate, insurance, utilities, it all adds up. The living wage in many cities is at least 10/hr. Which means that just to pay for basics you need to get $1600 per month as a single individual. When they talk of basic income they never talk about money like that, usually around $700, just around poverty level.
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Real estate, insurance, utilities, it all adds up. The living wage in many cities is at least 10/hr. Which means that just to pay for basics you need to get $1600 per month as a single individual. When they talk of basic income they never talk about money like that, usually around $700, just around poverty level.
With basic income you don't have to live in cities with high cost of living.
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#43Japan will endure, as it has for thousands of years. I'm more worried about where America and Europe are headed. Prosperity is one thing. Greed, corruption, and exploitation are another.
Anyway, in my experience, Japan today is a pleasant place to live. The lack of boom times here has rendered Japan more humble and practical than in the recent past. Most people in Japan ultimately enjoy a middle-class existence that would be the envy of the average American family. There are plenty of people who are struggling here, but Japanese people have endured far worse.
Western commentators will tell us that huge bloc of elders are an impossible burden on Japanese society. I see it differently—those people are a treasure trove of hard-earned experience. We can learn from them, and they're currently doing an excellent job as stewards of this place. They've seen first-hand the folly of chasing America and Europe on their imperialist fancies.
I would rather live in a "poor" Japan than in a "rich" America any day of the week. You can't put a price on peace of mind and the general atmosphere of civility and willingness to come together for a common cause.
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#44"The survey compared the incomes of the bottom 10 percent of households with children to the average income of 41 countries who are members of the OECD or the European Union. The income gap in Japan was found to be 60.21 percent, meaning the household income of the nation’s most underprivileged families with children was less than 40 percent of the average." I'm not sure how to read this. Income gap be damned, what i…
> ¥840,000 That's INR 8,597,047 in India. I think only top execs at a well established company make that much in India. Amazing.
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#4510 yrs of recession, or is it 20 yrs already? Failure to compete in high-tech areas (when was the last time you got a mobile phone made in Japan) Which is funny because Japan was very strong in the modern days of computing and videogames. What happened? My guess is that software got more complex and their vertical way of working is not productive for the complexity expected today
Japan has SERIOUS issues with NIH syndrome. They were on the cutting edge of technology when they led it. Not so much when it would require adoption from American and Chinese suppliers and service exporters.
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#46It's interesting that the author equates "Japan has very high labor force participation and low unemployment." with "No laziness or idleness here." The Japanese workplace culture of the 'sarariman' who spends 14+ hours a day in the office, achieving almost nothing, is legendary.
(Edit: I replied to the wrong poster or some similar mistake.) Disregard How can you argue against the author's immeasureable words/phrases like "very high", "low", "laziness", or "idleness", especially considering that you are relying on anecdotal evidence yourself? I have seen a bunch of tall trees Georgia, but my friend from California says they are small; which of us is correct? Who cares when the answer yields n…
That's not what's happening at all. Taneq is saying nothing about the relative nature of those words. They are arguing that the author is making an inference in the wrong direction.
> especially considering that you are relying on anecdotal evidence yourself
Talking about cultural roles is the opposite of an anecdote.
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#47It's depressing to read all the misguided commentary about Japan in western media. We're talking about one of the world's oldest continuous civilizations, which currently has the longest life expectancy, and one of the lowest crime rates. Japan will endure, as it has for thousands of years. I'm more worried about where America and Europe are headed. Prosperity is one thing. Greed, corruption, and exploitation are ano…
Interesting view on history.
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¥900,000 is almost exactly what I spent on average over a 5 year period from 2007-2012 living in rural Japan (Shizuoka prefecture). A couple of caveats: I was single at the time. I had subsidized housing (worth about ¥250,000 yen a year). I didn't have a car. That was the money I spent , and I made considerably more than that so was able to save quite a lot. However, I was very comfortable with that level of expendit…
What job did you have during that time? Living in rural Japan sounds like a pretty sweet deal to me.
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(Edit: I replied to the wrong poster or some similar mistake.) Disregard How can you argue against the author's immeasureable words/phrases like "very high", "low", "laziness", or "idleness", especially considering that you are relying on anecdotal evidence yourself? I have seen a bunch of tall trees Georgia, but my friend from California says they are small; which of us is correct? Who cares when the answer yields n…
> How can you argue against the author's immeasureable words/phrases like "very high", "low", "laziness", or "idleness" That's not what's happening at all. Taneq is saying nothing about the relative nature of those words. They are arguing that the author is making an inference in the wrong direction . > especially considering that you are relying on anecdotal evidence yourself Talking about cultural roles is the oppo…