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> Except that my opinion is formed based on logic and my expertise and your opinion is based on... what exactly? The exact words from Google own privacy policy, and the fundamentals of how IP networking works? > It should be noted this does not directly contradict what GP claims I disagree with that interpretation. They specifically say that they use data collected: "We also use this information to offer you tailored…
You are so desperate to justify your thinking (not to me, mind you, to yourself) that you grasp for every straw possible, forgetting what the question was about along the way. This particular question was about how you formed your opinion about Google using GA data to build advertising profiles. My opinion is formed based on my expertise in mining many terabytes of data and my experience in sourcing this data. Based…
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Re: Homebrew now sends usage information to Google Analytics
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Why are you even collecting this information? Homebrew isn't some for-profit product trying to optimize its funnel. Keep doing what you were doing. You were doing a great job. There is no benefit to you or us to silently spy on us.
From the GitHub doc[0]: > Homebrew is provided free of charge and run entirely by volunteers in their spare time. As a result, we do not have the resources to do detailed user studies of Homebrew users to decide on how best to design future features and prioritise current work. Anonymous aggregate user analytics allow us to prioritise fixes and features based on how, where and when people use Homebrew. I read this as…
Re: Homebrew now sends usage information to Google Analytics
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What the fuck what the fuck?
Why do you think "calm your tits" is an acceptable thing to say in this sort of situation in this sort of 2016.
Why is it unacceptable to you?
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That's what ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile or (whatever it is for your shell) is for.
Yeah, I don't want to do that every single time I put home-brew on a machine somewhere, for every single user. Doesn't it have its own global config? I confess that I'm too miffed by this intrusion in my privacy to be bothered to find out ..
Re: Homebrew now sends usage information to Google Analytics
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From the GitHub doc[0]: > Homebrew is provided free of charge and run entirely by volunteers in their spare time. As a result, we do not have the resources to do detailed user studies of Homebrew users to decide on how best to design future features and prioritise current work. Anonymous aggregate user analytics allow us to prioritise fixes and features based on how, where and when people use Homebrew. I read this as…
How the hell did you get that? They don't have money for market research so an easy/free alternative is GA. You assumed because they use GA that Google paid them off? That is absurd.
[0]: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-walked-away-from-iad-to...
Re: Homebrew now sends usage information to Google Analytics
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How the hell did you get that? They don't have money for market research so an easy/free alternative is GA. You assumed because they use GA that Google paid them off? That is absurd.
Homebrew is an OSX packages manager. Take a look at the vested interests of Google prying into high permission level access of Apple devices. This is not the same implementation as simply hitting a page in your browser with the GA script.[0] [0]: http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-walked-away-from-iad-to...
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> Remember when everyone switched to Homebrew because Fink/macports were "antiquated", a.k.a. not written in Ruby? Yes, I must admit I chose the word "antiquated" quite intentionally, as Homebrew seems to get so much attention (for now) because it's written in Ruby and the website ( http://brew.sh/ ) is shiny, rather than technical merits. > It was nice back then. Packages didn't install themselves in /usr/local. You…
That's the purpose of /usr/local. /nix/store? Really? You can't just make up new root level directories. That's so wrong.
I think you must have ignored a substantial portion of my comment. Let's take a look at what (part of) my Nix store looks like (you'll see it fundamentally looks nothing like /usr/local):
/nix/store/2mmvks92lx37xghj0795ldzrg50lh2pg-bash-4.3-p42
├── bin
│ ├── bash
│ ├── bashbug
│ └── sh -> bash
└── share
├── info
│ ├── bash.info
… …
└── man
└── man1
├── bash.1.gz
└── bashbug.1.gz
/nix/store/8g6gb6r49fxsrp547rdi3zr06vd69khq-git-2.7.4
├── bin
│ ├── git
│ ├── git-cvsserver
│ ├── git-http-backend -> /nix/store/8g6gb6r49fxsrp547rdi3zr06vd69khq-git-2.7.4/libexec/git-core/git-http-backend
│ ├── git-receive-pack -> git
│ ├── git-shell
│ ├── git-upload-archive -> git
… └── git-upload-pack
Note that each package under /nix/store is its own prefix; that is, it contains its own bin, lib, share, etc./usr/local is a dumping ground "for use by the system administrator when installing software locally"[1]. If you need multiple versions of automake installed: tough luck, the paths collide. If you need multiple versions of Erlang: tough luck, the paths collide.
Would you like to be able to rollback your system by changing one symlink[2]? Too bad: when you last installed packages into /usr/local, your package manager clobbered the previous version.
Technically, we could make /usr/local a symlink forest pointing into /nix/store, but we don't: we want to make sure that only the packages we explicitly declared are picked up by build tools, rather than defaulting to searching through the currently "installed" packages.
> /nix/store? Really? You can't just make up new root level directories. That's so wrong.
Can you substantiate your claim? Note that "it doesn't feel right" doesn't count as a rational criticism.
[1]: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLOCALLOCALHI...
[2]: This probably sounds like a bold claim. I tried to explain how this works above, but if you don't believe me, feel free to ask and I'll explain further. Alternatively, feel free to read the first paragraph here: http://nixos.org/nix/manual/#sec-profiles
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We don’t have the resources for this. If you have any suggestion for a service that doesn’t require us time to manage we’d be very grateful. Homebrew have a dozen maintainers for >30 PRs & issues per day plus maintaining our own CI infrastructure plus normal development; and all of this is on our spare time.
Add a feature where users can opt-in for periodic reports to be uploaded as a private gist, and a link is transmitted to you. GitHub is already a trusted party where Homebrew is concerned, so the loss of privacy is minimal. Users control their own GitHub accounts, so they control of the permanence of the data you collect on them. You can use Google Forms to transmit the links, so your infrastructure is cheap-to-free.…