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> this "ads everywhere" has leaked into Windows 10 (though you can turn them off a bit). Where? I've been using Windows 10 everyday for months and haven't seen an ad. There was that one time that something resembling a Tomb Raider ad was served to users' lock screens, but I never saw it myself and I've never seen anything else. Maybe it depends on which version of Windows 10?
Mainly the start menu. Just because they aren't "random ads" like a Coke video, doesn't mean they aren't ads. Showing offers to buy software is definitely an ad. I think there's pop-ups for Office as well as pre installed "apps" that are just links to buy.
Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut
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If it wasn't going to eat into Xbox One sales, I'm sure Microsoft would consider it. The Xbox 360 makes a far better media center than the Xbox One does. The apps on the 360 crash less then on the One and dealing with crashed apps on the 360 is much more reliable. For example, when your YouTube app crashes/hangs on the Xbox One, returning to the menu does nothing as the app pauses/runs in the background. You can hit…
Xbox one dev here - can confirm what my sibling said about the quit button. It immediately suspends (quits) the process. I've poured many hours into the product lifetime cycle of my game. On the other hand, if you don't hit quit, than hitting home and opening a bunch of other apps is exactly what you'd have to do to get the constrained (minimized) app to force quit while in the background.
I had the YouTube app crash on my Xbox One just yesterday. I hit menu and selected quit. Waited a few seconds. Hit menu again and quit wasn't an available option which should mean that it's done being force quit. Started YouTube again and it will still hung playing audio with a frozen picture. Sometimes I'll start it again and it'll just show the YouTube logo for a few seconds then return to home. It'll often do this a few times in a row. I have maybe 6 people in my neighborhood with Xbox Ones that all experience the same issues."
And it was just confirmed by another HN user.
Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut
#103IMO, the amazing thing about the 360 was how they were able to successfully continue selling it in spite of having the ring of death issues[0]. I know people who would go and buy a new machine when theirs died without thinking about it twice. One even gave me their 360 when the ONE came out. Microsoft sure knows how to build brand loyalty. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems
Maybe... but I saw recently that the PS4 is outselling the Xbox One two-to-one. I'm not on top of that world enough to know all the reasons why, but the "ring of death" could be one.
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I never really understood Microsoft wanting to be the center of the living room. Its just a weird concept to me.
I think the "aha!" moment for this is, today, still another 30-50 or even many more years away. I could ramble on for hours as to what I want the future to look like, but suffice it to say it really would be what we generally refer to now as the "automated home of the future". The largest obstacle right now is branding and current technology. Every individual company is vying to meet all your needs. Microsoft wants y…
Have you ever read Bill Gates' The Road Ahead? The book hasn't aged well, of course. (To put its age in perspective, it was a big deal that it launched with an accompanying Multimedia CD-ROM.) But a large gist of the book is exactly that point that technology will (and should) drift into the foundations of the home, seamlessly touching nearly every device and surface in the home. Most of the details are obsolete by now, but I do think the overall vision is still inspiring. (Even to this day, Microsoft keeps and updates a "smart home" concept for PR usage that they can play act what a seamlessly integrated supere home may be.)
Things are moving slowly because they have to. It's been 20 years since The Road Ahead was published (!). There's a sense that if Microsoft had found some magic way to jump straight to whole home automation and seamless device linking in those 20 years they would have jumped on it.
The interesting thing is that even in the world we have you can see that DNA threaded through their efforts. The Xbox is the TV set top box that succeeded after multiple, multiple attempts at Microsoft before they found that the intersection of Games and Media Center was the way to get into that space.
The 360 tried to extend your media center from a home media server you probably didn't own. The Xbox One tries to extend itself, your Xbox and its access to your TV, to every Windows 10 device you probably do own... Yes, Xboxen have to standalone as game playing warriors on the threshold of your television, but you can see Microsoft trying, however successful you think they may be, to expand that deeper into your house...
Then there's other "standalone" pieces of the puzzle that have been R&D efforts and direct learning experiences. Kinect put a UX R&D lab in a bunch of people's living rooms. There's no HoloLens without Kinect, and HoloLens too has that DNA of trying to get to a place where everything in your space (not just house, but maybe even your office) is seamlessly digital. There's Cortana very much trying to be your day-to-day Jarvis, at least for appointment scheduling and reminders today.
The reason I ramble down this tangent with you, is that the interesting thing today, that I don't think you appreciate given your opening paragraph, is the difference between what Microsoft wants these days, versus what Apple and Google are trying. Some of it comes from the maturity of thinking about all of this stuff for more than two decades already (and building many, many baby steps toward it) combined with fresh executive leadership. Microsoft has backed away again from trying to build "the Microsoft Home" and is content to once again be in a place similar to where the company started (and those bits of DNA that remain from The Road Ahead). Microsoft wants you to have an awesome home, regardless of which devices you choose to use, but they want those devices to be full of Microsoft software and connected to Microsoft's cloud. They don't mind being exclusive again, they seem to want to be the company you come to for the best apps and the best tools to develop your own apps.
The Xbox One wants to extend itself to every Windows 10 device that you already own, as well as Android and iOS. The Xbox app is installed by default for home Windows 10 users to make it easy; it's just an app store download away on the other platforms. Cortana wants to extend "herself" to every Windows 10 device that you already own, as well as Android and iOS. Again, Cortana is there by default in every Windows 10 install, but available for Android and iOS, too.
I cannot tell you if this New Microsoft will be any more successful at making our homes amazing seamlessly integrated, beautiful systems, than the Old Microsoft, but I'm willing to bet that they might be, and I'm willing to hope that it will be faster than another 20 years away as so many of the puzzle pieces start to come together (Xbox integration with Cortana; Better cross-device Cortana "hand off"; "Cloud Notifications" merging all of your device notifications and dismissal; ...), and maybe much, much faster than your pessimistic 30-50 year horizon...
«So far, we've got nothing worthy of being called amazing.»
Per Gibson's Law, "The future is already here, it is unevenly distributed" is the corollary that "The things we have today seem ordinary and boring, as we forget that they are really the future, distributed to us today". There are technologies we take for granted today that make the "big amazing future" things proposed and explored in The Road Ahead seem quaint by comparison. Sometimes we forget to stop and appreciate how amazingly the bits of future that we have that are already here.
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Mainly the start menu. Just because they aren't "random ads" like a Coke video, doesn't mean they aren't ads. Showing offers to buy software is definitely an ad. I think there's pop-ups for Office as well as pre installed "apps" that are just links to buy.
I feel like I'm losing grip on reality. My installs of Windows 10 have none of these things. Are we just talking about Windows 10 Home here?