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Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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While on the topic of girls at Olympiads, one should also add Lisa Sauermann of Germany who is the most successful participant of all time at the International Math Olympiad. http://www.maa.org/news/math-news/germanys-lisa-sauermann-wi...

While still on the topic of girls at Olympiads, I was recently appalled that a European Girls’ Mathematical Olympiad (https://www.egmo.org/) exists. There were usually plenty of girls at IMO, so I really don't see the point of this.

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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If it surprises anyone that a boy can ask a girl for help with maths, then that person is a sexist. Unless you think girls are worse at maths, then this is a null-story. Shall I tell you a story about how as a child I saw that the sky is blue?

It comes across as you are more interested in being angry than trying to understand what the original poster might have been saying(?) > If it surprises anyone that a boy can ask a girl for help with maths, then that person is a sexist I think everyone here agrees with you. My understanding of the original post's point was: "I asked a girl for help in math and it was nothing special; Just like asking anyone who is go…

Your parent poster is from a 3 hour old account with no other contribution to HN.

Safe to assume troll.

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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Weirdly enough, these foreign female engineers never complain about "culture problems" even though they make up the majority of female engineers.

They definitely do; I've had plenty of private conversations with non-American women in CS about sexism. I think Americans are just more likely to be openly vocal about it.

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Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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I'm not sure what you mean by positive change. Firstly, the article was very sexist and I don't see that changing any time soon. "programming is just another skill to be mastered through persistence — with or without a Y chromosome.". Can anyone point me to a link where anyone (other than a feminist) has said this? Smashing of records? They came 2nd and 3rd in most instances. That's not refuting they may be talented,…

Maybe this is coming from a generational gap, but your experience does not mirror mine at all. I went to an engineering school where women in CS were either assumed to be a management major or people assumed that they were taking the easiest courses available. I've had my wife answer questions for people thoroughly and correctly, and had them come to ask me the same question 20 minutes later and trust that my answer…

It seems fairly established that profession with highly unequal ratio of men and women tend to have a minority gender with a much higher exit rate than the majority, caused by the majority harassing the minority until they assimilate, quit or switch profession.

The next step should be to ask why women working in a female dominated profession are harassing the men in the same profession, or why men working in male dominated professions are harassing women. Maybe if we could figure out a good answer to that, we could turn the tide of more work professions becoming gendered with unbalanced ratios.

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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at this point in time, the 2nd highest comment is.

Note that new comments are weighted much higher (e.g. I've had top level comments on a thread with several comments immediately show up first) and so the fact that a comment is near the top at a point in time does not mean that it's popular.

fair enough, TIL. thanks!

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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This isn't exactly my theory, this is something fairly well documented that I have come across in general reading. >men died on all sides in WWII I'm not sure if you're aware of how far the scale of deaths in the Soviet Union exceeded any Western country - East Germany was probably close, which is an interesting correlation: were there any communist countries without major gender imbalances?

I don't think many people were killed in e.g. Slovenia (and the rest of ex-Yugoslavia). Yet we had communism and almost perfect sex equality.

It also probably had to do with religion. The US was heavily religious compared to the Soviet block. And religion usually puts women in their place behind men.

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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I don't think he meant it like that at all. If he thought a girl couldn't teach you anything about integrals, he wouldn't have asked for help. I think he used it as an example to show that the cultural distinction in his school between the genders when it came to math weren't enormous. Had there been a clear culture of math as an all-boys-no-girls subject, that exchange (were he as a boy asked a girl for help) would…

If it surprises anyone that a boy can ask a girl for help with maths, then that person is a sexist. Unless you think girls are worse at maths, then this is a null-story. Shall I tell you a story about how as a child I saw that the sky is blue?

> then that person is a sexist.

Whether you think is sexist or not, you can't deny that sciences, maths, and computer science are male dominated. By the end of high school years that can be clearly seen as well. At least I saw it. And my claim was that I saw it more in US than in an Easter European country.

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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Maybe, or maybe it was the basic understand that the communist dream can only come true if everyone, men and women, equally work towards it. In my parents' generation (I'm born in the GDR) there was no debate about feminism. Women were expected to work, childcare was available, it was free and it catered to people who had to work 40h/week. Sometimes I was in kindergarten from 8am to 8pm. I still remember how I did no…

I can't find the link now, but I remember reading about a paper (probably through Marginal Revolution) that showed that, in the GDR, because men and women worked equally and earned equally (in the general case, party leaders aside), a lot of cultural gender equality just became the norm. E.g. men couldn't impress women with nice cars or any of the other status symbols that are so common in the West, and had to 'convi…

>E.g. men couldn't impress women with nice cars or any of the other status symbols that are so common in the West, and had to 'convince potential mates' through their personalities and actions

Is this gender equality? It sounds, and it may just be because you simplified it to fit into a single line, that the men were still having to impress the women. Wouldn't gender equality have been the end of there being a set gender having to impress the other?

Re: Three teen sisters who win medals in coding competitions

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I've taken the liberty to rewrite the article in literal sentences so people can enjoy it without the opinionated flourish. The interview was preserved as-is, though I added speaker labels to make it clearer who is talking. ------------- TITLE: These Three Young Sisters Perform Very Well in Programming Competitions 5 min read Mari would be skeptical of a claim that females are not good at engineering, programming, or…

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