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Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by WoodenChair »

valarauca1 wrote: post #23
sremani wrote: post #2

I am not a hardware guy, but honestly, they should mini-fy XB360 and make it appleTV competitor but with a huge game library.

I am a hardware guy. Cooling would be a small issue (but additional die shrinks may make it possible) There were 3 generations on Xenon which powered Xbox360 (90nm (2005), 65nm (2007), 48nm (2010+))[1]. Modern processes are 28, 16/14 (10nm is Intel only really and Xenons were fabbed GlobalFoundry) [1]. The 2005 vs 2010 models reduced power consumption reduced power consumption from 177watts, to 88watts (under intensi…

Those are stats for the Apple TV third generation. The fourth generation is significantly different and uses more power but it's hard for me to find an exact official number from Apple. I don't think it's much more though.

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by kabdib »

justinlardinois wrote: post #19
Grazester wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which iteration? My roommate went through two of them due to the red ring of death.

The S and E models don't have that problem. I've heard some of the later chipsets for the original model also fixed the problem. From what I've heard, the 360 was original designed with an environmentally-friendly (read: not lead) solder that had never really been used in a major product. The original design already had heat problems and the solder turned out to be easily melted.

Some laptops had similar issues (e.g., a Lenovo, whose support issues caused me to rage-quit Lenovo products forever).

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by throwanem »

dsp1234 wrote: post #8
sremani wrote: post #2

I am not a hardware guy, but honestly, they should mini-fy XB360 and make it appleTV competitor but with a huge game library.

but with a huge game library They have actually backported quite a few games[0] to run on the Xbox One (where you can use the original disk, or now even buy them as digital downloads). So my guess is that they are likely to push for more Xbox One sales (where buyers have the convenience of playing either era of game) rather than try to create a mini-device that would only be able to play older games and not newer one…

That's not a backport, that's just a port. Backporting would be converting XBox One games to run on the 360.

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

buckbova wrote: post #7

PS2 went on for 13 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2 > Sony finally announced that the PlayStation 2 had been discontinued after 13 years of production – one of the longest runs for a video game console.

Nintendo's Family Computer (aka the Nintendo Entertainment System in the rest of the world) was released in 1983 and only discontinued in Japan in 2003. Even after that they still repaired consoles until 2007.

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by FussyZeus »

asimuvPR wrote: post #24

IMO, the amazing thing about the 360 was how they were able to successfully continue selling it in spite of having the ring of death issues[0]. I know people who would go and buy a new machine when theirs died without thinking about it twice. One even gave me their 360 when the ONE came out. Microsoft sure knows how to build brand loyalty. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

Speaking as a 360 owner, I think it had more to do with a really good selection of launch exclusive titles that kept people coming back. The original gen 1's were not of great quality at all, even beyond the RROD issues the console felt cheap and poorly made, the power supplies were insanely large and generated a ton of heat, etc. Microsoft sold the 360 with good exclusives, which is what Sony then did with the PS4 while Microsoft bumbled around trying to be the center of your living room, like Sony did in turn with the PS3 (and why it had similar issues the One now has).

To be fair: The Elites that came about later on were a MASSIVE improvement. The originals were the low bidder manufacturer and it showed, and I think M$ learned from that. Despite it's software issues (which I've gone to at length in other threads) the One does feel like solid hardware and good build quality.

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by toxican »

ethbro wrote: post #30
untog wrote: post #17

I bought an Xbox 360 about six months ago to serve as a Windows Media Center extender - while I was at it I picked up GTA5, too. It's still a very respectable machine, given that it cost me less than $100.

This is why the XBOX 360 has had fairly long legs. It's no longer "just a game console" and is really in the first generation of converged, internet-updatable consoles. And in that generation? Even if your console doesn't run the latest games, there's still substantial value delivered for a lot of people through Netflix, social features, casual games, etc. And MS can continue backporting their UI updates.

Is Netflix, Hulu, etc. still behind the Live Gold paywall?

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by ComputerGuru »

vblord wrote: post #10

Good job on the awesome product! insert hand clapping smiley face here

Testing HN's Unicode support here (and your browser's)...

Edit: And it failed. I tried the emoji for the record: http://emojipedia.org/clapping-hands-sign/

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by kbenson »

webkike wrote: post #27

I purchased a 360 a few days ago so that I could play Street Fighter 3: Third Strike with my friends from back home. It's a fine console, but I was worried about the prospects of Microsoft shutting down Xbox Live at some point.

> It's a fine console, but I was worried about the prospects of Microsoft shutting down Xbox Live at some point.

Well, as long as they still need to run Xbox Live for the Xbox One, it's probably in their interest to provide the (relatively) small amount of work to keep it functioning with the Xbox 360. Plus, they charge for the service, so as long as Live makes them money (it does![1]), they are likely to keep it going.

1: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2015-10-22-xbox-live-r...

Re: Microsoft is ending Xbox 360 production more than 10 years after its debut

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Post by ZoF »

abhi3 wrote: post #3

Summary: Xbox 360 production will be discontinued but existing stock is still available for sale in stores. Microsoft has no plans to discontinue support for it. Xbox One (now the only remaining gaming console from Microsoft) now has Xbox 360 backward compatibility, and that likely means Microsoft will maintain support for that console and the bulk of its services through the life of the Xbox One at the least. That p…

You're doing this too much. Downvoted.
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