Facebook is the most powerful attempt to construct a true modern walled garden. Bots and VR could be really useful in this attempt. Please, do not let this happen.
Facebook is slowly eating the rest of the Internet
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#112The only reason why I have not been using Facebook is their android app on 4.4.3 burns through my battery.
I still have their messenger app which I use every now and then to keep in touch with friends overseas. I might return to using the regular it in the future.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook is the social equivalent of fast food. They've tuned the menu to make it addictive. > I wish I had a clever idea for a solution to this because I really think the world deserves an open social platform that not only engages people socially, but provides the social lubricant to enable people to form online/offline clubs and interact with each other in a high-bandwidth so we can use the internet to teach each…
It's not just you or your therapist friend. According to a study[1]: Empathy Dropped 40% in College Students between 2000 to 2010. And now everything is much more addictive, and mobile wasn't even that common in 2010. And now we have virtual reality, which when you read the research some scary side effects surface - stuff like "derealization" - basically having a consistent feeling that real life isn't real. Or stuff…
Wow. I've been suspecting this more and more, but whenever I bring it up or similar, it ends with an asinine amount of resistance and I'm regarded as an SJW, worse, and even unempathetic. Hell, when I bring up some of the civics work I do, people get angry that I'm trying to help others. Parpaphrased statements like, "Why are you trying to help dumb people?" are unbearably common and sad.
Thanks for the article. It gives me a lot to think about (after fact checking, of course).
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#114Not sure if it's an Israeli thing, but Facebook groups are probably the biggest value I get out of Facebook (excluding messanger/whatsapp). We have very active programming groups (Israeli IOS/Android devs, Javascript Israel), neighborhood and city groups (Secret Tel Aviv), social groups (Burning man Israel) and even a large discussion group about politics and economics.
Its everywhere, the hackathon facebook group, which is primarily americans, has something like 35,000 members.
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>If such a platform did exist, and I knew about it, I would switch immediately. >That being said, I limit my facebook usage to messanger and wishing people happy birthday, so I guess it could be worse. You don't need a platform, you need a messaging tool and, if you don't mind the lack of encryption, you could just use email.
True, but I also need people I want to talk to to be on the messaging tool, which is the real issue here. As for email, to me it just doesn't serve the same purpose that IM does. It's analogous to sending letters back and forth as opposed to having a face-to-face conversation -- the increased time lag between replies encouraged by the medium has a huge influence on the nature of conversations that occur through it. I…
I use Google Messenger. Everyone has a cell phone number. No need to enroll. I can share pictures, audio, text, video. Text messaging is the only thing you need.
I have a group chat with 2/3 other friends I've know for 20+ years. Then I usually text others individually.
Facebook is an awful medium to conduct intimate conversations over. After two failed attempts to ditch it in the past, I've been off Facebook for a year. I can attest that you won't miss it. Just use SMS.
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#116I'm really ashamed to admit it, but I am addicted to Facebook. As much as I despise the lack of depth in the average content, I feel confident that Facebook has stumbled on something in our animal behavior that draws us closer to it. I've always explained the phenomenon of gossip rags as a surrogate for our innate need to be social. Rather than engaging in actual social scenarios (which can carry social risks), many…
Facebook is the social equivalent of fast food. They've tuned the menu to make it addictive. > I wish I had a clever idea for a solution to this because I really think the world deserves an open social platform that not only engages people socially, but provides the social lubricant to enable people to form online/offline clubs and interact with each other in a high-bandwidth so we can use the internet to teach each…
BTW, I'm actually a very social person. I've literally spent years in coffee shops socializing in the days before cell phones, the World Wide Web and Facebook. In the mid 2000's, I discovered Meetup and spent 4-5 nights a week going to or organizing my own meetups. I have no social phobias or rejection anxiety and I'm very comfortable speaking in public.
I think you underestimate the anxiety people experience when they go out. I see it when people come out to my meetups, so I make it a point to introduce myself and introduce them to other people.
When I say I wish I had a clever idea to offset the effects of Facebook, I really mean to say, I wish I had a clever idea encouraged people to go out, talk to strangers and make lifelong friends on a Facebook scale.
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#117I'm really ashamed to admit it, but I am addicted to Facebook. As much as I despise the lack of depth in the average content, I feel confident that Facebook has stumbled on something in our animal behavior that draws us closer to it. I've always explained the phenomenon of gossip rags as a surrogate for our innate need to be social. Rather than engaging in actual social scenarios (which can carry social risks), many…
Facebook is the social equivalent of fast food. They've tuned the menu to make it addictive. > I wish I had a clever idea for a solution to this because I really think the world deserves an open social platform that not only engages people socially, but provides the social lubricant to enable people to form online/offline clubs and interact with each other in a high-bandwidth so we can use the internet to teach each…
Uhhhh... what's the status if I find it easy and enjoyable to interact with other people in-the-flesh, but they find me extremely weird and not a little abrasive because they expect everyone to view the world the same way as them?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another issue I've found since leaving the 'Facebook family' a few years back; there's a large disincentive for members you leave behind to contact you. You fall out of their habitual communication methods. The onus is on you to call them, which is already hard enough when both people could initiate the call. It becomes a much rarer event unless concerted effort is made. So until 'the next big social thing' comes alo…
I left FB (several times in fact), and I always end up returning. Firstly no-one cares you've gone - most of your 'friends' don't even notice you don't post or comment any more. Secondly, no-one contacts you directly either. You end up a social outcast, missing events that only get posted on Facebook. I didn't know some of my friends had had babies until several weeks after the fact, because they only announced on Fa…
> I didn't know some of my friends had had babies until several weeks after the fact, because they only announced on Facebook assuming everyone would see it, and I was on a Facebook hiatus at the time.
Didn't take a "hiatus", just straight up closed my account about eight years ago.
People who matter still make the effort, and I find the personalized interaction much more rewarding.
I always go back to the example of some friends of mine. They got engaged. Everyone else found out on Facebook. They got that news while they were pooping, sitting on the couch watching TV, etc.
I found out a few days later than everyone else... when they told me in person. And I got to be excited with them. And hug her and shake his hand.
I like that way better.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
No you shouldn't be concerned. Facebook for me personally, turned into just "blocking" everyone on my feed, because all they posted was garbage. It was endless posts of people airing their dirty laundry. Too much drama, so at the end of last year, I closed my account, and haven't logged in since. I do however have a separate developer account with zero connections, so I can get work done. LinkedIn, I still have an ac…
Not much drama on my feed. Maybe the fault is in your friends and not in Facebook.
Well that's kind of awful. Maybe it would be easier for GP to just use different social tools, rather than getting an entirely new set of friends?
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But without a formal invitation how can you just show up? I doubt the formal invitation would require facebook.
I'm sorry, what invitation are you talking about? The Facebook event system? If so, if someone wants to invite me, I'm sure they can find a way around Mark Zuckerberg to do this. If not, their loss. I'm not a party person though, that might have something to do with it as well. (I do get around to my share of hacker conferences, but they somehow don't seem to use Facebook...)
An actual physical invitation.