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Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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> *Note: Promotion code available for new DigitalOcean customers only. This type of promotion really aggravates me. I'm not just saying this only about the announced GitLab/DigitialOcean partnership, but rather as a general comment as I see this customer acquisition ruse quite a lot elsewhere too. I spend money with DigitalOcean. I don't feel particularly rewarded for my loyalty when I can't enjoy the same promotion…

Two years ago the GitHub Student Developer Pack gave me $100, which I have been using to maintain a tiny droplet (literally changed my life, thank you). Last month Digital Ocean sent me this message: We’re truly sorry if this came as a surprise. As of March 2015, we revised our Terms of Service announcing that we’re no longer able to offer credits that do not expire, and any unused credit added to your account more t…

I got the mail in early april, and it, in fact, even violates German law (promotional coupons and promotional credit, if not otherwise specified, is valid for 3 years, and can not be revoked via ToS changes).

But I do not wish to sue, as it would just cause me a lot of trouble, and I’d rather spend the money on a hoster I can actually trust. Instead of a hoster violating laws and frauding customers out of their legal credit.

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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post #82
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two years ago the GitHub Student Developer Pack gave me $100, which I have been using to maintain a tiny droplet (literally changed my life, thank you). Last month Digital Ocean sent me this message: We’re truly sorry if this came as a surprise. As of March 2015, we revised our Terms of Service announcing that we’re no longer able to offer credits that do not expire, and any unused credit added to your account more t…

I got the mail in early april, and it, in fact, even violates German law (promotional coupons and promotional credit, if not otherwise specified, is valid for 3 years, and can not be revoked via ToS changes). But I do not wish to sue, as it would just cause me a lot of trouble, and I’d rather spend the money on a hoster I can actually trust. Instead of a hoster violating laws and frauding customers out of their legal…

DO are not bound by German laws.

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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For more information about the autoscaling see https://about.gitlab.com/2016/03/29/gitlab-runner-1-1-releas... Questions about anything GitLab are very welcome.

I have a question regarding the difference between the "concurrent" and "limit" parameters seen here [1].

I understand that if I'm running a managing runner in machine mode with limit=10 then it can start a maximum of 10 machines. What does "concurrent" affect in this context. I don't want the managing runner to do any builds locally -- just to send to runners managed by machine.

[1] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ci-multi-runner/blob/ma...

Edit:

Ignore me. I found the answer on the same page [2]:

[2] https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ci-multi-runner/blob/ma...

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

#85

More affordable than free? Not sure I get this. Is CI really so hard that we need to pay someone else to do this? I have a perfectly good server doing nothing and I installed TeamCity on that. Works great and is essentially free.

You're only paying for the server time, Gitlab CI is free. Many companies don't have nor want to have servers lying around, they'd rather outsource it.

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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> *Note: Promotion code available for new DigitalOcean customers only. This type of promotion really aggravates me. I'm not just saying this only about the announced GitLab/DigitialOcean partnership, but rather as a general comment as I see this customer acquisition ruse quite a lot elsewhere too. I spend money with DigitalOcean. I don't feel particularly rewarded for my loyalty when I can't enjoy the same promotion…

"$10 credit on sign up" vs "$10 credit for all existing customers" is a significantly different story in terms of the cost to the business. This is offered as an incentive to start using the service, not to keep using it.

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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post #83
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got the mail in early april, and it, in fact, even violates German law (promotional coupons and promotional credit, if not otherwise specified, is valid for 3 years, and can not be revoked via ToS changes). But I do not wish to sue, as it would just cause me a lot of trouble, and I’d rather spend the money on a hoster I can actually trust. Instead of a hoster violating laws and frauding customers out of their legal…

DO are not bound by German laws.

If they have German customers, they are bound to German laws because they are doing business in Germany. Sure it will not apply to American DO customers, but if they to have German customers, they are bound by their local laws and those laws apply to protect citizens of that nation.

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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> DigitalOcean is all over Fortune 500 Do you have any reference for that? I was under the impression that DigitalOcean was mostly used by developers and startups. I was also under the impression that Git became the mainstream VCS a while ago...

What do you mean by "reference"? I was talking about corporate environment of dozens or so F500 where I participated in various projects personally, and saw myriads of archaic in-house development tools that would embarrass even prehistoric. DO was used in a couple of cases, not too widespread, but I had a feel it's one of the places it could really make a difference. And introducing Git to that would just make the w…

I have not yet worked for a fortune 2000 enterprise that would allow a VPS to be used that did not offer actual private networking. Which ones have you seen that used DO?

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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post #83
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got the mail in early april, and it, in fact, even violates German law (promotional coupons and promotional credit, if not otherwise specified, is valid for 3 years, and can not be revoked via ToS changes). But I do not wish to sue, as it would just cause me a lot of trouble, and I’d rather spend the money on a hoster I can actually trust. Instead of a hoster violating laws and frauding customers out of their legal…

DO are not bound by German laws.

They have data centers in Germany, ran ads in Germany, did business with German banks, and so on.

Yes, I’m pretty sure if they interact with a German customer, they are bound by German laws.

Would be a shame if their data centers were seized if they wouldn’t comply...

(I’m not sure if German courts use this technique, but it’s commonly used by US courts to force German companies to adhere to US laws, like in the many "Germans can’t sell Cuban cigarettes to Danes in Germany due to US embargo of Cuba" cases, so precedent exists.)

Re: GitLab Partners with DigitalOcean to make CI more affordable

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I have a (perhaps) more incendiary take on this kind of thing. I have no problem with promo codes for new customers. Zero. None. As a business owner, I know damn well there are some products or services that need a little "taster" offered to a potential customer to get them even modestly interested. Existing paying customers? Why would you spend money to acquire customers that you've already acquired. You had your re…

im confused too... i think SMTP sends mail.......

SMTP does both the sending and receiving for the server side. Email clients only use SMTP for sending, though, which is probably why you were confused.
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