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Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by scrollaway »

mtgx wrote: post #23
numbsafari wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know enough about California politics, how is it that Feinstein is able to be a proponent of these crazy ideas and somehow get elected in the home state of Silicon Valley and many of the companies who will be ruined by these proposals?

Electronic voting machines, which somehow end up re-electing the chief of the Senate Intelligence Committee, as well as chief NSA cheerleader? But I'm sure that's just a coincidence, and Feinstein is just that loved in California. After all, US is a democracy, not some banana republic! http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2012/1026/Could-e-vot... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/03/21... http:…

Blaming reelection of corrupt officials on conspiracies and voting fraud before doing any introspection on why they actually won is the best way to perpetrate those reelections.

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by koenigdavidmj »

numbsafari wrote: post #18
coroutines wrote: post #3

Feinstein is just the worst. She is the equivalent of Mitch McConnell for the Democrats. She fully understands exactly what she's proposing and she's the biggest hypocrite for it.

I don't know enough about California politics, how is it that Feinstein is able to be a proponent of these crazy ideas and somehow get elected in the home state of Silicon Valley and many of the companies who will be ruined by these proposals?

She has a D after her name.

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by cuckcuckspruce »

numbsafari wrote: post #18
coroutines wrote: post #3

Feinstein is just the worst. She is the equivalent of Mitch McConnell for the Democrats. She fully understands exactly what she's proposing and she's the biggest hypocrite for it.

I don't know enough about California politics, how is it that Feinstein is able to be a proponent of these crazy ideas and somehow get elected in the home state of Silicon Valley and many of the companies who will be ruined by these proposals?

Because Harvey Milk and George Moscone are dead - she wasn't killed by Dan White[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscone%E2%80%93Milk_assassina...

(Edit: What I'm trying to say is that she was the person that found Harvey Milk shot and was one of the people that police asked to identify the bodies of both Milk and Moscone. Certainly being that close to the aftermath of violence changes a person.)

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by ultramancool »

tbrake wrote: post #30

> "Today, terrorists and criminals are increasingly using encryption to foil law enforcement efforts, even in the face of a court order." How can you utter that sentence and simultaneously not understand why your bill is effectively worthless for its stated purpose?

These guys just don't get it... they'll come back saying "crooks are dumb" and that's the end of it. I remember this being discussed when Skype went backdoor friendly. They'll catch some even... just no one who knows what they're doing.

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by nullnullnullnil »

coroutines wrote: post #3

Feinstein is just the worst. She is the equivalent of Mitch McConnell for the Democrats. She fully understands exactly what she's proposing and she's the biggest hypocrite for it.

Not going to lie, now that I know she's done this, I'll be sure to vote against next time.

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by _asummers »

koenigdavidmj wrote: post #32
numbsafari wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know enough about California politics, how is it that Feinstein is able to be a proponent of these crazy ideas and somehow get elected in the home state of Silicon Valley and many of the companies who will be ruined by these proposals?

She has a D after her name.

So do many people in California. And that's only relevant in a general election. Why hasn't she gotten a reasonable challenger in the primaries?

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by justinlardinois »

numbsafari wrote: post #18
coroutines wrote: post #3

Feinstein is just the worst. She is the equivalent of Mitch McConnell for the Democrats. She fully understands exactly what she's proposing and she's the biggest hypocrite for it.

I don't know enough about California politics, how is it that Feinstein is able to be a proponent of these crazy ideas and somehow get elected in the home state of Silicon Valley and many of the companies who will be ruined by these proposals?

As a Californian, because...

* There are a lot of Republican voters in California who are happy to vote for Democrats, so even better if they're more towards the right

* I'm not old enough to have voted in too many elections, but her opponent in 2012 was a joke

* She doesn't really have an anti-Silicon Valley reputation (yet)

* California is more than just Silicon Valley

* Likelihood of voting correlates directly with age, and Silicon Valley is dominated by young people

* Her family is just so established in California politics, so the money's rolling in. Her husband is chairman of the University of California Board of Regents.

I'm not a fan either.

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by alanwatts »

tbrake wrote: post #30

> "Today, terrorists and criminals are increasingly using encryption to foil law enforcement efforts, even in the face of a court order." How can you utter that sentence and simultaneously not understand why your bill is effectively worthless for its stated purpose?

>How can you utter that sentence and simultaneously not understand why your bill is effectively worthless for its stated purpose?

Pious idolization of the State.

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by pigpaws »

MagicWishMonkey wrote: post #12
coroutines wrote: post #3

Feinstein is just the worst. She is the equivalent of Mitch McConnell for the Democrats. She fully understands exactly what she's proposing and she's the biggest hypocrite for it.

It's pretty remarkable that Texas and California seem to elect the scummiest people possible to the Senate. I guess that's what happens when you have a massive population of mostly apathetic voters? I really think this country would be better off if CA and TX were not allowed representation in the Senate (and I say this as a Texan).

you forget KY (McConnell) and NY (everyone).

Re: Intelligence Committee Leaders Release Discussion Draft of Encryption Bill

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Post by cmdrfred »

tbrake wrote: post #30

> "Today, terrorists and criminals are increasingly using encryption to foil law enforcement efforts, even in the face of a court order." How can you utter that sentence and simultaneously not understand why your bill is effectively worthless for its stated purpose?

If only we could get a court order to prevent them from making bombs. I would feel oh so much safer!
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