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40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
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Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Olive oil burns too easily. I usually use peanut or safflower oil. Where do they fit in on this radar?
Coconut Oil is good and has a high flashpoint. Edit: Lard and Butter also work quite well.
Also goose fat for ultimate deliciousness.
Edit: Geese might disagree but they're mean.
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Olive oil burns too easily. I usually use peanut or safflower oil. Where do they fit in on this radar?
What are you cooking? I mean, are we talking pan frying or deep frying? My understanding is that peanut oil is very pro inflammatory and a bad idea to use at high heat. Butter, animal fats and coconut oil are my go to oils. But I don't deep fry.
Both involve high temperatures, so they would call for similar kinds of fats or oils. Peanut oil stands up well to high temperatures and does well in both situations. Peanut oil isn't pro-inflammatory; in fact, due to its higher saturated fat content and lower unsaturated fat content it's more like coconut oil and animal fats in that regard.
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#44The context of the early 70s was that "The Limits To Growth" and "The Population Bomb" had just been published and there was a real concern in the air that the world was going to run out of food quickly unless something drastic was done. I think this created a strong confirmation bias that favored any scientific validation of vegetarianism as good news. Saturated fat being the main component of meats that is not in v…
That being said, I wonder if a worthwhile goal is to breed plants, especially grains, to have higher fat (and specifically higher omega-3 fat) and lower carbohydrate contents. Long term storage might be an issue since unsaturated fats tend to oxidize while carbohydrates are stable, but if it's possible for the fat to be mostly saturated that wouldn't be an issue.
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#45Gary Taubes wrote a great book showing how politics marred nutritional science: http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Scienc...
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#46The context of the early 70s was that "The Limits To Growth" and "The Population Bomb" had just been published and there was a real concern in the air that the world was going to run out of food quickly unless something drastic was done. I think this created a strong confirmation bias that favored any scientific validation of vegetarianism as good news. Saturated fat being the main component of meats that is not in v…
Thanks for this. This seems very plausable. I'm now eating low carb and shuning most vetegable oils. I do use Olive Oil and eat more fish. I use just a little coconut oil. Lost ~28 lbs and have not been sick at all since going ketonic. Still have to lose more weight. I do eat red meat and chicken, turkey. Cheese is a favorite and my bias is I don't want to have to give up cheese.
I remember reading that cheese (and dairy products) are actually relatively addictive, apparently because of casein. Here's a link, but it's not the original study just an article about it. I'm sure a google search for "casein yale food addiction study" might turn up better results.
http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/food-drink/chee...
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#47We don't need scientific studies to figure out what to eat. Just look at what has worked for millennia and avoid newfangled processed food.
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thanks for this. This seems very plausable. I'm now eating low carb and shuning most vetegable oils. I do use Olive Oil and eat more fish. I use just a little coconut oil. Lost ~28 lbs and have not been sick at all since going ketonic. Still have to lose more weight. I do eat red meat and chicken, turkey. Cheese is a favorite and my bias is I don't want to have to give up cheese.
I remember reading that cheese (and dairy products) are actually relatively addictive, apparently because of casein. Here's a link, but it's not the original study just an article about it. I'm sure a google search for "casein yale food addiction study" might turn up better results. http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/indybest/food-drink/chee...
That's correct. Cheese has a really high concentration of the casein protein which breaks down into casomorphins in the gut which then act like an opioid. Cheese is also very high in advanced glycation end products (AGEs) which are known to cause aging.
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#49The book "Death by Food Pyramid" goes into great length about the history of how the food pyramid came to be and the story of how it got corrupted.
Re: 40 year old study could have reshaped American diet, was never fully published
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Olive oil burns too easily. I usually use peanut or safflower oil. Where do they fit in on this radar?
Coconut Oil is good and has a high flashpoint. Edit: Lard and Butter also work quite well.
If you are concerned about flash point, make sure it is clarified butter (Ghee). Normal butter still has a decent amount of milk that will easily burn at lower temperatures.